Subj : Re: Intent of the Torah To : Joshua Lee From : John Wilson Date : Thu Oct 26 2000 06:16 am -=> Joshua Lee wrote to John Wilson <=- JL> 2) ...already knows itself; in fact, this is why it exists. JL> This, however, is difficult to understand.... 'Tis for my brain :-) JW> 3. All knowledge (of anything) is a part of that process. JW> 4. Which is justification enough for man's existance. JL> Knowledge is a good thing, but there are limits. It takes not a long time in the PHIL to recognize this :-) (OR for me to look into a mirror...) Oh. You speak of the limits to it being a good thing? I'd like to to expound a little. if you will, on... JL Some questions, JL> and answers, lead towards confusion; though most do not. ....some that do. I don't know...I've always assumed that knowledge was the *dispersdal* of confusion. I'll be interested in your explaination/commentary/opinion/whim/hunch/proclamation... JL This JL> is because if man could know everything, he wouldn't be able JL> to have free will. There is a distintion 'twixt knowledge and will, surely... JL> This is due to a conflict with God's JL> Knowledge, and God's Will, as it were. Oh...kayyyy....although if `man could know everything' he would, seems t' me, *merge* with G*D... ...but I'm not concerned with man knowing everything. Won't happen THIS month... :-) (Or while man is still Man...) JW> 5. There is more. Mankind is asleep, and awakening is possible. JW> (Gurdjieffian stuff...I'm still learning about this...) JL> I think I can agree with that, in a broad sense; but I think that JL> man's "purpose" is more than only knowledge; it is also JL> righteousness. It would seem to me that one leads to the other. JW> The Ultimate irony: we are Gods, and know it not. JL> That seems to me to be arrogance, or self-delusion. Yes. It is a quote I remember for the purpose of not forgetting what "Irony" is. :-) Did I post that as a belief of mine? Sorry! :-) Cheers! (Mitt der Dr. Pepper) :-) .... Space is curved. Either that or my car pulls to the left. ___ MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.32 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) .