Subj : Re: Intent of the Torah
To   : John Wilson
From : Chuck Pierson
Date : Thu Oct 26 2000 09:52 pm

-=> On 10-26-00 13:16, John Wilson wrote to Joshua Lee <=-

 -=> Joshua Lee wrote to John Wilson <=-


 JW>  3. All knowledge (of anything) is a part of that process.

 JW>  4. Which is justification enough for man's existance.

 JL> Knowledge is a good thing, but there are limits.

 JW>   It takes not a long time in the PHIL to recognize this :-)
 JW>   (OR for me to look into a mirror...)

 JW>   Oh. You speak of the limits to it being a good thing?

I can't perceive having too much knowledge myself.  But I'm trying to get
there.  I've got more useless information in my head than Cliff Claiburne.

 JW>   I'd like to to expound a little. if you will, on...

 JW>  JL  Some questions,
 JL> and answers, lead towards confusion; though most do not.

 JW>   ....some that do. I don't know...I've always assumed that knowledge
 JW>   was the *dispersdal* of confusion. I'll be interested in your
 JW>   explaination/commentary/opinion/whim/hunch/proclamation...

Perhaps it's something like one summer  I decided to read the entire Bible.
After I finished it,  I was confused.  My impression was the underlying
message was basically "Play nice children,"  yet people have been fighting
about it ever since.



 JL> This is because if man could know everything, he wouldn't be able
 JL> to have free will.

 JW>   There is a distintion 'twixt knowledge and will, surely...

I'd think so.


 JL> This is due to a conflict with God's
 JL> Knowledge, and God's Will, as it were.

 JW>  Oh...kayyyy....although if `man could know everything' he would, seems
 JW> t' me, *merge* with G*D...

Makes sense.


 JW>  ...but I'm not concerned with man knowing everything. Won't happen
 JW> THIS month... :-)

 JW>  (Or while man is still Man...)

Probably so.



 JW>  5. There is more. Mankind is asleep, and awakening is possible.
 JW>  (Gurdjieffian stuff...I'm still learning about this...)

 JL> I think I can agree with that, in a broad sense; but I think that
 JL> man's "purpose" is more than only knowledge; it is also
 JL> righteousness.

 JW>      It would seem to me that one leads to the other.

Can you explain that?  I've got a vague impression of what you mean, but I
don't see the connection.


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