Subj : The Game To : Joshua Lee From : Frank Masingill Date : Wed Oct 25 2000 11:44 pm JL> Abraham came from Ur. When the Torah was brought down, *that* JL> was ancient history! Ah, yes, and considering ancient Egypt and Sumer, UR was modern, also. Jerusalem was already ANCIENT when conquered by David. Voegelin laid down the dictum that in matters of experience and the symbolizing of it so very LITTLE is new and one can almost always safely observe the rule that if something like this is called "NEW" it probably should be distrusted. People may set THEMSELVES apart but humanity remains as it is, striving for "perfection" even when they disagree about what it is. Frank --- PPoint 2.07 * Origin: Maybe in 5000 years (1:396/45.12) .