Subj : Extent of the Torah
To   : Joshua Lee
From : Frank Masingill
Date : Wed Oct 25 2000 11:26 pm

 FM> I got stuck on the idenity of the "for 'all men.' "  Refresh
 FM> my memory. What IS it that is banned for "all men."  If you
 FM> tell me it is bagels, cream cheese and jelly I'll shoot
 FM> MYSELF!!!

 JL> It is seriously not for all people. In fact, there's even a
 JL> statement in the Talmud that a non-Jew who observes the
 JL> Sabbath in full is chayiv misa. (*Liable* for the death
 JL> penalty; keeping in mind of course, that Jewish courts have
 JL> such strict rules for the death penalties that it is
 JL> effectively impossible to carry out according to the laws
 JL> concerning it, a court that executes one person in 70 years is
 JL> "a bloody court"; and that Jewish courts never adjure
 JL> non-Jewish cases. A Jew, who *breaks* the Sabbath, for
 JL> example, is also chayiv misa; but that penalty has not been
 JL> carried out for millenia.)

        Well, Joshua, keep the guillotine or the hangman's noose
stored as far as I'm concerned.  I doubt seriously that I've EVER
committed your chayiv misa.  I'd probably even pronounce it wrongly.
I know I told you a long time ago that I had Seventh Day Adventist
cousins and "observing the Sabbath" was not something I considered
to be a "fun" day for kids.  I did LOVE, though, all of the baking
of great breads before sundown on Friday in preparation for the week
ahead.  I don't imagine they "do it like you do."  

        If I should ever violate your law by committing the chayiv
misa and somebody who knows that lingua franca apprises me of it
I'll be sure to turn myself in for trial!!!  Better watch some of
the other guys on this echo though.  They might be tring to do it
behind your back!!

Frank

--- PPoint 2.07
 * Origin: Maybe in 5000 years (1:396/45.12)

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