Subj : Re: The Game
To   : Frank Masingill
From : Joshua Lee
Date : Wed Oct 25 2000 08:30 pm

-=> Frank Masingill wrote to P.E.G. <=-

 FM>         What is "recent history" to some would be "ancient" history
 FM> to others.  It is difficult for the determined progressivist to
 FM> imagine the truth that a Cicero, e.g., had a panoply of "ancient"
 FM> history within HIS horizon, just as we do.  What, also, is the

I still think of the Maharal, and so on, as being later authorities;
and they wrote in the 16th and 17th centuries. Everyone after the
Shulchan Aruch in the early 15 hundreds is termed an Achron, the
later ones. Really, for Judaism, modernity begins with the printing
press's reinvention in the west and it's soon subsequent use for
printing Hebrew works; and the main foundational texts to which
commentaries upon commentaries are made are all hopelessly
ancient. <grin>

I don't mean to brag, but my bookshelves are filled with books that
predate the 19th century CE, and many works predating the second
millenium; the majority of Americans only have one book that old,
a wonderful Jewish book known as the Bible. :-)

Of course, I read new stuff too; but to me, some of these authors
are just as innovative as moderns imagine themselves to be. I
pretty much read daily works that are old enough for the moderns
to have dismissed as the ramblings of cavemen; and it's fairly
amusing sometimes to see the amount of ignorance that they
infer to previous generations; as if that allows them to dodge
the realms of uncertainty that still exist today in spite of
the positivist's and other's attempts to make them "figments
of the imagination" and mere primative science.

 FM> difference between the "ancient" history of the Athens of Plato and
 FM> the Sumerian cultural area of, say, 2,000 B.C.?  Often it is almost

Abraham came from Ur. When the Torah was brought down, *that* was
ancient history!

 FM> as if Christianity ruled the horizons of the world and, for the

No comment.

 FM> atheist, ruining those horizons UNTIL the positivist came along to
 FM> make the correction!!!!

Y'all tried to make a "correction" 2,000 years ago, and we're still
fightin' about it today. ;-)

                       JBL

.... What is mind? No matter! What is matter? Never mind! - Homer S.
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