Subj : Re: Bible To : Joseph Voigt From : Joshua Lee Date : Tue Oct 24 2000 01:16 pm -=> Joseph Voigt wrote to Joshua Lee <=- JL> There is a place for healthy sexuality, and in fact it is wrong to JL> deny someone's right to have it. On the other hand, unhealthy JL> sexuality, various forms of what Todd calls "fetishisms" are in JL> reality enslaving; and society has every right to try to steer people JL> away from enslaving themselves. JV> Really?? And just WHO is going to decide for all of us JV> which of Todd's "fetishisms" are enslaving? I detect Big JV> Brotherism in your above. Society, in basing it's morality partially upon Judaic morals, has (or had) a pretty good idea of what is normal sexuality; heterosexual activity within the marriage bond; and what is excessive or perverse. Excessive or perverse sexuality changes one, it makes one more like an animal; and society has every right to not be a society of animals; no big brotherism intended. JL> I am for freedom of choice; immorality impedes the freedom of choice JL> by making people more like animals. JV> Says who? Who is going to decide for all of us what sexual JV> behaviors are immoral in the first place? Nu, God has. But one can learn this from reason as well. JBL .... What is mind? No matter! What is matter? Never mind! - Homer S. ___ MultiMail/Win32 v0.37 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS, Telnet:juxtaposition.dynip.com (1:167/133) .