Subj : Re: The Game To : Frank Masingill From : Joshua Lee Date : Tue Oct 24 2000 09:40 am -=> Frank Masingill wrote to P.E.G. <=- FM> As long as the Melian Dialogue is the accepted standard in FM> diplomatic negotiations and the Roosevelt-Churchill Four Freedoms is I'm not sure if Churchill would have agreed with "freedom from want"; he was conservative compared to FDR. FM> going to be easy. What religious zeal misses in this complex of FM> problems, nationalism steps in to shore up. Witness the opposition Ariel Sharon's striding onto the Temple Mount was completely a nationalistic move; it is forbidden by Jewish religious law to go onto most of the Mount in a state of impurity. Unfortunately, for the sake of solidarity, most Jewish religious leaders aren't pointing this out. On the other hand, it was clear that a disturbance and re-igniting of the intefada would have occured without Sharon, there were already wheelbarrows full of the large chunks of concrete the PLO used as "stones" to throw onto worshipers at the western wall when he went there but, as one columnist wrote, the question remains, why did he have to give them an excuse? FM> "World Peace" is one of those modern myths. It is not to be FM> decried for under it we do, perhaps, the best we can to lessen the FM> killing, but woe betide those who depend upon it as a substitute for FM> human action to bring about as much peace as is possible. For the FM> ancient Hebrew king who had to listen to an Isiaih tell him to lay FM> down the country's arms and hark unto Jahweh, it must have been If you read the passage carefully, he does not say for him to lay down the countries arms, he says not to pursue alliances with countries that would be conquered. (According to historical scholars, Rezin was indeed conquered by Assyria) This passage, in Judaism, isn't even considered a messianic one; and wasn't considered one historically until xtianity, in it's syncretic phase, was looking for a virgin birth story in the "Old Testement". JBL .... What is mind? No matter! What is matter? Never mind! - Homer S. ___ MultiMail/Win32 v0.37 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS, Telnet:juxtaposition.dynip.com (1:167/133) .