Subj : Extent of the Torah
To   : JOSEPH VOIGT
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Mon Oct 23 2000 08:14 pm

> Monday October 23 2000 04:38, TODD HENSON wrote to JOHN WILSON:
> 
>  TH> And how long has the universe been around? Forever? If so, then it
>  TH> would already have had enough time to get to know itself.
> 
> You have already been told again and again in Holysmoke why your argument is
> flawed.  The universe has been around for all of time, as space-time is
> intrinsic to the universe.  There was no -before- it.
> 
>  TH> If it hasn't been around forever, then where did it come from, and
>  TH> who made it?
> 
> Why is it because you don't know where it came from you insist gods must have
> done it?  How do you make that leap?  A quantum flux is an easier 
explanation. 
> And, how on earth do you think a WHO made it?  How do you make THAT leap?  No
> -who- is required.  You've been told this again and again in Holysmoke before
> you ran out of there.


How interesting that you'd tell me about how it's invalid to speak of a
"before" the universe, yet 
you use the same language when you speculate where it came FROM.

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