Subj : Bible [2] To : Curtis Johnson From : Frank Masingill Date : Mon Oct 23 2000 07:24 pm FM> In fact, this shuttle away from reality was so pronounced in FM> the early part of the century that people were SHOCKED that FM> such a thing as WW I could come at ALL. Read the history FM> books written CJ> It had been preceded by several crises that had come close to CJ> the brink while the alliances in place. There had been an CJ> incredible amount of jingoism beforehand (I have a ca. 1910 CJ> Belgian schoolbook, and it was amazing what what was being CJ> inculcated in this small neutral country). France had been CJ> explicitly and publicly been vowing "revanche." The real CJ> surprise was that a general European war would last for so CJ> long: it had "proven" that it would be economically CJ> impossible. Well, I note the rather grudging concession. Actually, I have the difficult task of first proving to you that I'm not ignorant of the "annals" of "history" and then of showing the respectability of what Ted V. McAllister has called the search of Leo Strauss and Eric Voegelin for a "postliberal order." You actually make my point VERY well in that last paragraph. I'm just as aware as you are of the revanche movement wherein one of the French statesmen after the humiliation of the Franco-Prussian War said that he could think of no other reason for living except to take revenge for Alsace and Lorraine. The ancient Treaty of Verdun question. But none of this reduced the enthusiams that ran so high with assurance that mankind in the western world, aware of the tremendous growth in firepower, surely could not engage in another major war. I'm certain that you've read both Fay and Schmitt on the diplomatic efforts to limit a war that the major powers, both England AND Germany simply permitted to happen anyhow in full consciousness in the final analysis. This was followed by the unreality of "peace" through bankruptcy of one of the great powers saddled in article 232 with the total responsibility for the war which the diplomatic archives soon proved to be a false charge. I really do not consider that in a Philosophy echo one should have to deal with the details of historical annals beyond a certain broad understanding but at the same time, I suspect you are right that this cannot be true. When we have such stark disagreement upon what it was that Cohn was attempting to say the interpretation of what is transpiring in our recent memory can hardly be resolved. Frank --- PPoint 2.07 * Origin: Maybe in 5000 years (1:396/45.12) .