Subj : Extent of the Torah To : Todd Henson From : Joseph Voigt Date : Mon Oct 23 2000 09:06 am Monday October 23 2000 04:38, TODD HENSON wrote to JOHN WILSON: TH> And how long has the universe been around? Forever? If so, then it TH> would already have had enough time to get to know itself. You have already been told again and again in Holysmoke why your argument is flawed. The universe has been around for all of time, as space-time is intrinsic to the universe. There was no -before- it. TH> If it hasn't been around forever, then where did it come from, and TH> who made it? Why is it because you don't know where it came from you insist gods must have done it? How do you make that leap? A quantum flux is an easier explanation. And, how on earth do you think a WHO made it? How do you make THAT leap? No -who- is required. You've been told this again and again in Holysmoke before you ran out of there. .... "Paul is a liar, he said so. (Romans 3:7)" - Simon Ewins --- FastEcho 1.46 (reg) * Origin: The Danse Macabre 210-623-1395 San Antonio, Tx (1:387/638) .