Subj : EUROPE
To   : Bob Eyer
From : Frank Masingill
Date : Sat Oct 21 2000 12:46 pm

 BE> > You simply have not read the book carefully enough.  The
 BE> > symbolism of the "leader," (dux) the "three ages" and much
 BE> > else that was laid out in Joachim were continued through the
 BE> > millenium and, in fact, constitute the CENTER of its
 BE> > "pursuit." Hegel, Feuerbach, Marx, Comte, et all used this
 BE> > symbolism that was cemented in the "enlightenment" and the
 BE> > thread continues right on down to Moscow as the "third Rome"
 BE> > and nazism's "third Reich." Joachim gave us the modern model
 BE> > of the spirit-filled intellectual who "knows the wave of the
 BE> > future" and can lead his people into that marvelous utopia.
 BE> > If you argue AGAINST these dynamics it is because, I
 BE> > suppose, that you, like Bob Eyer, consider the murderous
 BE> > gangs for whom a Europe, deprived of the canons of western
 BE> > thought by this intellectual positivism and the social
 BE> > circumstances of the early 20th century, accepted as
 BE> > leaders.

 BE> "Bob Eyer"??  That's me you're talking about here.  And your
 BE> sentence is a triviality.  You say, " ...  I suppose that you,
 BE> like Bob Eyer, consider the murderous gangs for whom a Europe,
 BE> ...  (phrase in apposition) ..., accepted as leaders".

        You told me once that while the nazi horrors were clearly
bad they represented a mere passing phase in the overall progress
that mankind was now experiencing because he had overcome the
ignorance and superstition of religious philosophical period when he
was mired in primitive error.  Now I know that you did not use those
precise words but that is what I read in your evaluation of the the
period since "enlightenment."  If I have erred in remembering your
thought then I shall stand corrected.

Frank

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 * Origin: Maybe in 5000 years (1:396/45.12)

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