Subj : don't cry for me I have vi To : tony summerfelt From : Maurice Kinal Date : Sun Apr 03 2005 01:30 pm Hey Tony! ts> i've used command line debuggers: softscope for C on intel ts> workstations running RMX. and several different ide's That's all new to me. I've heard of workstations, even Intel ones but the rest I've never encountered or heard of before. I obviously live a very sheltered life. ts> but it was back and forth...very cumbersome... I suppose. However, most of the programming I did way back when there would be little benefit to an ide. Very little, if any, had anything to do with "normal" user-orientated applications. From what I've seen with most Unixie type programming I doubt there would be much benefit having an ide. The typical Unix program as a rule tends to be fixated on doing one thing. I suppose the beefier apps, such as a shell program, that might differ but most basic Unixie source I can't really see it. ts> there's a reason why vb, delphi, and visual studio have made the ts> progress they have... Really? I have yet to see them make inroads. We must be talking about that other OS. A few years or so ago Borland tried to get their foot in the door with Linux but didn't get that far with it that I've noticed. Same with Sun and Java, although they've had better success with that simply because they've always been Unixie, but it appears to me that most of Java tends to be limited to a few web applications and hasn't been the unifying force Sun predicted way back when, especially considering they had to sue MS over that very issue. How has that all worked out since? i haven't noticed any real effect. Anyhow, to get back ontopic, I really don't know what use a perl ide would have on a Linux box given that most perl scripts tend to be quite small and fixated towards a specific task at hand, not unlike most things Unixie. I honestly don't see it happening to be quite honest. Perhaps on XP but fortunetly that has absolutely no impact here. - Maurice --- Hacked v0.1b * Origin: Coffin Point (1:261/38.9) .