Subj : Re: I'm going to do it! To : Holger Granholm From : Mike Luther Date : Fri Jun 24 2005 09:26 am Chiming in Holger .. HG> Both the last partitions are HPFS. If you wish you can also install HG> OS/2 on FAT partitions. It works very well but you may run into trouble HG> when trying to install some programs that require HPFS. Yes ,, yes ,, yes! As well, depending on FP levels and so on, running multiple communications oriented programs and the TCP/IP game at the same time on FAT oriented partitions has really gotten me in trouble before I gave up and put everything on HPFS partitions. It may be important to know that if you intend to save any trap data with the tools provided to hard disk, the partition you place this data on has to be a FAT partition, as far as I know. GM>I believe that by going to the WarpDoctor Clinic GM>, downloading WARP4IU1.EXE,GM>and extracting the files to a floppy diskette, I hope I resolved GM>that issue. HG> It's possible. There is a second disk file that goes with this, as far as I know, which produces a modified second install diskette. It is WARP4IU2,EXE, and there is also a text file describing what has been done to the diskettes which is involved. I have all three. They, as far as I know, were not in the restricted area of the IBM support efforts. Therefore sometime today, I'm going to make sure they are on the 1:117/3001 BBS files operation in the IBMINFO area here. HG> The fixpaks are available from Hobbes. I recommend FP12. The later HG> fixpaks require you to learn the intricasies of LVM which is a new HG> version of partitioning. I think this may be not right in one sense. As far as I know, FP15 solved a LOT of other problems which surfaced on FP12 and FP13 for some people, including me. FP13, the first attempt to fix problems that really were there in FP12, was a *REAL* problem child. FP14 didn't get it 'right' here, either. FP15 really was, as far as my notes went, the best release in a long time and certainly, in my opinion, ought to be the target level for anyone not wanting or able to associate with IBM for the paid-in level of help. I kept a complete synopsis outline of all the errors found in the march from FP12 up, what was talked about, what was fixed; what was not. It was PAGES long at 88 lines per page Holger. Now .. likely the most important comment about pre-pay-for-service fixes for the base operating system. On HOBBS there is a complete packed .ZIP installer for FP15 that was graciously packaged and placed there. It has NEVER failed on any of a fairly large number of boxes I used it on. Yes, it is a large download file as would be expected. But it is all there, the autoinstaller and all the works. Anyone wishing to wind up at this last pre-pay-for-service level in Warp should really, in my opinion, download or get a copy of this installer version and use it. On beyond the base service op-system service level, there are other serious fixes that should be used, which are free, for other parts of the system. The original install for Warp for PEER has issues with path line lengths in CONFIG.SYS of greater than 256 bytes in length. That crept forward into the fixpacks for PEER as well. Later releases of the CD-ROM for OS/2 Warp, as my memory has it, fixes this on the CD-ROM distribution in the CD, but oddly, not in the basic at-install-time venue. You'll hit this, if for some reason, you have to install or re-install PEER on a much configured box after the original layup. The solution to this one, in addition to the really needed PEER fixes which are free, is to do a CID type install of PEER with the original Warp4 operation. No point in taking reply time here unless it is needed, but I'll separately go through this if needed. Queerly, as far as I can tell, the entire CID install game for PEER is gone from MCP1/2. The entire MPTS and TCP/IP game has fixes which absolutely need to be done for them post Warp4 install, at least had to in my world. There are a number of threads in the archives all over which discuss the version levels, this before and not that, plus whatever. We can go over that again also as needed. But in my view, two of the most important fixes that really are needed,for those who hit them, have to do with DHCP and the HPFS file system. The DHCP operation has a connection issue which can crash the entire system over repeated re-connects where a file handle is left open for each time AUTOEXEC.BAT is run in DOS-VDM sessions, of all things, I guess depending on what master level of this and that you have relative to things. At any rate, the fix for that was posted in the open on the Public TestCase, and was absolutely required on my BBS box to keep it from smashing over time. However, keeping track of this and that, all my boxes are upgraded to TCP/IP 4.3 as I recall. This one is on my BBS here in the IBMINFO section as: 2-26-04 11:24p 104945 0 DHCPFIX.ZIP A second super-critical issue, as far as I know, which focuses out on both MCP1/2 as well as even FP16 boxes, until it was finally corrected in FP5 for MCP1/2 is an HPFS file system fix covering system smashes due to very heavy file loads. It was important enough that it, too, was released on the Public TestCase. This one is also on my BBS in the IBMINFO section as: 5-25-04 10:26a 79368 0 HPFS0525.ZIP ***************** Sort of in summary. Yes, FP12 was a very important and stable point in the evolution of OS/2. And a person whose use of OS/2 for whatever reason has no issues with OS/2 for what they use it for, obviously should likely not fix what ain't broke! But each time a fix for something goes on that *IS* a problem, the pieces to the puzzle often extend far into other areas of the OS/2 venue, into any of the 16 or more DLL's that are merged into PMMERGE for example, or as they touch DOSCALL1.DLL or the keyboard, whatever. Even to this day I keep discovering something new and wonderful I can do with OS/2. And with my still increasing use of it and the more and more complex use I make of it, comes the real need to go way beyond FP12 or FP15 in Warp4. FP17, HPFS fixes, DHCP fixes, TCP/IP fixes have all pretty much forced me to go this way. And yes, I do have Warp4 still in service, as well as MCP2 here! Just trying to help... --> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;) Mike @ 1:117/3001 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Ziplog Public Port (1:117/3001) .