Subj : MMTerm? To : Ed Williams From : Jim Hanoian Date : Wed Apr 04 2001 08:49 am -=> Ed Williams wrote to Jim Hanoian <=- JH>By the same token, there are plenty of free communications JH>programs, you just have to look for them and accept the fact JH>that they don't do everything quite like a commercial program. JH>Depending on your requirements, the free trade magazine or JH>the free comm program may be acceptable. That's up to you, JH>and is not the responsibility of the Post Office or Fido. EW> I'm sorry, what you say is very small minded. You assume of EW> course that there are commercial terminal programs that are EW> under current development, which is only barely true. You also EW> assume that Fidonet can survive without putting at least the EW> barest tools into the hands of those people it wants in the EW> net. That's just the point... people don't need a comm program anymore. Beyond a browser, they might need a only a telnet tool. There ARE freeware telnet clients available. As I said before, all you have to do is look. I'm very sorry you think that I'm being very small minded. Seems to me that expecting to be handed a free app that exactly meets all of your requirements is quite a bit more small minded than my position of accepting what you can get free, and paying for it if you feel the need otherwise. Further, the future of Fido is not in dial-up BBSing, it is BBSing that takes advantage of the internet. Only by riding the freely available highway does the dream of joining us together become a reality. Some say that the internet was the death of BBSing, but look at the boards that are available via telnet sitting on the end of a cable modem. Look at the file transfers and accessibility that everybody enjoys. The problem, as I see it, came from the us versus them fight that developed in the early meetings... if we had learned to live together in the beginning, we wouldn't have the problems we have now. EW> I stand by my statement that Fidonet's greatest failing is EW> lacking the ability to put it's vast amounts of talent to EW> decent gains for our community by providing at least the bare EW> bones utilities for the users to contact BBS's. I've connected to a dial-up BBS using the terminal program that comes with Windows, and I've connected using the telnet program that comes with Windows. So what's the problem? .... Jim Hanoian, Augusta, Maine, USA .... Smoke indicates that you have exceeded maximum performance limits. --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.38 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .