Subj : Re: MM Linux editor pref To : William Mcbrine From : James Bradley Date : Fri Feb 11 2005 06:58 pm 02-09-05 01:03, William Mcbrine told James Bradley about Re: MM Linux editor preff Well, how do, William? -=> James Bradley wrote to All <=- JB> I'm wondering if there is a general preference to a Linux editor JB> while in MultiMail? WM> Yes, it's the line that says: WM> editor: WM> in ~/.mmailrc. That much I knew. (I know, you have to assume 0 background.) When BW wasn't working with the board I was using, I did install a few DOS and W32 versions. Being quite new to *NIX, I was paying particular attention to any mention of those OSes in the docs. JB> emacs is doing the job, but I'm more used to DOS's Q-edit. Anythig JB> closer to that? Please: vi, and vim are not even on my radar. WM> Try pico. Also, a lot of people like joe. Joe, I know, is already there, but I'll have to take a look for Pico. Thanks! JB> Mostly, I can't seem to find the docs. I installed from an ELF JB> version. WM> You mean mm-linux-i386elf.gz, right? Did you see what it says above WM> that on the web page? WM> Note that if you want the documentation, you'll also need the source WM> archive; these are only the binaries. The elf version was the only one I could get to the Linux box so far. (See below.) I looked at the page once, but remember little about it. The src file showed up to the party in a mangled state, so I'll have to take another shot at procuring it. (Dial-up from outside of town, and then up-loading to the BBS spoofed the CRC somewhere, no doubt.) JB> 2.) When spawning the editor, MM shows "Unrecognized keyword: $" WM> That means there's something bogus in the .mmailrc file. JB> It only seems to appear in an X-terminal, WM> No, if it's on one, it's on the other. It just goes by too fast to see WM> on the console. Noticed that when I looked real close. Have to look real close at the rc now. JB> but when I run in the console, it does the funky ANSII character JB> shift, with sporadic "?" marks all over. As an aside; how would one JB> fix that? WM> setfont default8x16 WM> For some reason it's not actually the default, at least in my distro, WM> nor I'm guessing in yours. To make the change permanent, you'd have to WM> do something like add that command to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. Ahh... Will give it a go. Pictures... Er, text at eleven. (I'll be deleting my previous reply.) JB> 3.) Read Markers don't seem to be saved. "zip -jkq" is the default JB> compression, Permission are likely all wonky, as I mentioned I'm quite JB> new to Linux. WM> The only thing I can think of is, do you in fact have "zip" installed? WM> I can imagine a distro including unzip but not zip, at least by WM> default. Ah, HAH! That must be it. I was kind-a chasing my tail there with permissions. JB> 4.) I've only run MM as root so far, but am a little foggy about how to JB> run it as a normal user. Shouldn't the mmail directory go in something JB> like /usr/share or some-such? WM> Hell no. The idea of separate users is for each user to have separate WM> data. You don't run selected apps as a normal user; you run WM> everything as a normal user, and use root only when absolutely WM> necessary. So, each user has a "home directory" (typically WM> /home/username on a Linux system, except for root, who's in /root), and WM> their individual files go there. WM> In Unix, MultiMail uses $HOME/mmail for its data (i.e., typically WM> /home/username/mmail), and $HOME/.mmailrc for its settings, unless WM> told otherwise. Mandrake wasn't availing the modems' lockfile to normal users, so I had to use root to do any mailing. RH *does* allow normal users to use the lockfile, so that much is sorted. When I couldn't get the QWK packets, I couldn't use MM. <-; WM> Yes. MultiMail is originally a Linux program. The Unix-formatted docs WM> are in the source code archive. What was the acronym? Any Day Now, or was it Real Soon Now? I have no I-Net access at this time, so I have to pester family and friends on my forays. Thanks for the info, William! .... Roadkill on the Information Superhighway. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: -=-= Calgary Organization (403) 242-3221 (1:134/77) .