Subj : [1/7] FYI Fwed advice
To   : RACHEL L. AKERS
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Wed Mar 21 2001 09:58 pm

> -->>  Abortion is always evil (even in the case of rape or incest) 
> SD> I personally disagree with abortion except in the case of rape, 
> SD> incest or the mother's life is in grave danger. 
> 
> There was a recent case in Oz where the mother successfully organised (for 
the
> want of a better word) a late term abortion (<FX: personal cringe>) 'cause 
she
> told the Dr her "sanity" was in grave danger... I'm more pro-choice than not
> (with a few riders) but AFAIC that was wrong.


Why was it wrong? Do you have a problem with late-term abortions in
general?


> SD> HOWEVER, before anyone shoots anything towards me, I believe that 
> SD> abortion is a personal decision.  If it's a wrong decision, you'll 
> SD> pay for it.  If it's a right one, you'll reap the benefits. :)
> 
> <nodding head> I'm more for indept education to prevent unwanted pregnancies 
&
> lower the number of "preventable" abortions. But I know there are many
> insidents when the mother just doesn't have that luxury. Rape & incest are 
two
> well known ones but there're are other incidents like with the nastier 
genetic
> disorders like Huntingtons Chorea (where the most common cause of death among
> sufferers is suicide). However I don't think it ought to be a blanking "yes 
or
> no" question. Aborting on grounds like gender, height or intelligence is 
being
> selfish.


Why is that selfish? If the "thing" being aborted is not a human, if you're
pro-choice, then why 
are some reasons for abortion OK but others aren't?


> -->>   Christians are the only truly loving people.
> SD> Wrong, wrong, SO DAMN WRONG.  
> 
> Oh I agree. I've had rip roaring debates / grump sessions - only within the
> pagan community - about people believing that just 'cause someone is helping
> another than they are "Christin" .... <GRRRRR>
> 
> SD> A majority of people that I've met that call themselves 
> SD> "Christian" are myopic, homophobic (and in some cases, xenophobic 
> SD> about anyone outside their own belief system) and undesirable.  
> 
> <nodding head> Tragically enough some sects seem to restrict their "own 
belief
> system" to a few sects nearest to their own. I've seen some of the most
> horrible anti-religious attacks on the Catholics.


That's interesting, because most of the pagans I've met in FIDO have been
myopic, xenophobic, 
and undesireable as well. Do you think that could be a human trait in
general, rather than one 
that is brought on by people's religion?

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