Subj : [1/7] FYI Fwed advice To : Sean Dennis From : Rachel L. Akers Date : Wed Mar 21 2001 09:37 pm Gidday Sean, -->> Mental illness is caused by God visiting "iniquities" ... SD> Mmmm... I don't think so. I really can't understand the X-ian sects who have this approach -->> Homosexuality ... caused by mothers feminizing sons... SD> Never heard that reason. Interesting. It's a popular one for some anti-gay lobbist over here. BTA they are usually anti-females also so "blaming the mothers" kills two birds with the one stone. -->> Abortion is always evil (even in the case of rape or incest) SD> I personally disagree with abortion except in the case of rape, SD> incest or the mother's life is in grave danger. There was a recent case in Oz where the mother successfully organised (for the want of a better word) a late term abortion () 'cause she told the Dr her "sanity" was in grave danger... I'm more pro-choice than not (with a few riders) but AFAIC that was wrong. SD> HOWEVER, before anyone shoots anything towards me, I believe that SD> abortion is a personal decision. If it's a wrong decision, you'll SD> pay for it. If it's a right one, you'll reap the benefits. :) I'm more for indept education to prevent unwanted pregnancies & lower the number of "preventable" abortions. But I know there are many insidents when the mother just doesn't have that luxury. Rape & incest are two well known ones but there're are other incidents like with the nastier genetic disorders like Huntingtons Chorea (where the most common cause of death among sufferers is suicide). However I don't think it ought to be a blanking "yes or no" question. Aborting on grounds like gender, height or intelligence is being selfish. -->> Christians are the only truly loving people. SD> Wrong, wrong, SO DAMN WRONG. Oh I agree. I've had rip roaring debates / grump sessions - only within the pagan community - about people believing that just 'cause someone is helping another than they are "Christin" .... SD> A majority of people that I've met that call themselves SD> "Christian" are myopic, homophobic (and in some cases, xenophobic SD> about anyone outside their own belief system) and undesirable. Tragically enough some sects seem to restrict their "own belief system" to a few sects nearest to their own. I've seen some of the most horrible anti-religious attacks on the Catholics. SD> To be honest, some of the nicest, sweetest people have been SD> Wiccan/Pagan/earth-based in their religious beliefs. :) There's a tagline I'm not game enough to put on a t-shirt. It's something like.... The best thing about pagan friends is that they worship the ground you walk on ... -->> Non-Christians are going to Hell. SD> You know, it's hard for a non-Christian to go to hell if they SD> don't believe in one. I take it you've seen the "Naaahhhaa I go to the Summerlands not to your hell!!!" comments doing the rounds?? );-) Rai --- Msged/2 4.00 * Origin: Elfwhere - The POINTy eared POINT (3:640/531.2379) .