Subj : [4/7] FYI Fwed advice To : All From : Rachel L. Akers Date : Tue Mar 20 2001 11:10 pm >... continued from last post FYI Fwed advice: Dealing with a Practicing Christian [4/7] Do you have copies of the e-mails where you told her to stop sending you Christian stuff? Use those too. She may try to claim that she "didn't know" that you didn't want the material she sent. Use those to prove that she was told several times not to send you material that is offensive to you. (If you don't have them, you might ask the computer center to retrieve them; just tell them that you lost some copies of e-mail that you wanted to save, and could they get them for you from the server?) I'm wondering why this woman hasn't lost her job long since. Are you 'out' at work, or is your paganism still a secret from your co-workers? > How do I get into a better place? The way I think you might do that is by taking action. Look at it this way, this woman may *say* she's acting in love, but she's not. She's acting from fundamentalism and judgment and hatred, and you have the right to a peaceful work environment free from harassment. Right now you're not getting that. You might warn her that you'll complain to human resources or another higher-up if this doesn't stop, but that might backfire. You've given her plenty of warning already, in the form of your e-mails and requests for her to cease and desist. At this point, I would go to human resources or some manager higher than both of you, and present your problem. This is beyond the scope of what one person can handle. Personal story: Before I realized I was pagan, I worked in an office where an essentially useless individual had been hired. She was earning the same as me but did about a quarter of the work. She was flighty, childish, insipid -- and friendly. Very friendly. She was also Foursquare Gospel. I took great pains never to let her know I was Catholic (which, at the time, I was). I think she would have had a heart attack just over that. I left that job three years ago, for various reasons. Anyway, about six months ago, I got a phone call from her. (Don't ask me how she got my home phone number, I'm not sure I'd want to know.) She wanted me to go with her to her church. By that time I had been six months out into paganism, and I shut that idea down, but as kindly as I could. I pulled no punches, however; I used deliberate hot-button words like "witch" and explained to her, calmly, that I wasn't Christian and wasn't going to be, and that we all have our own path to walk (many roads, one destination). I explained about my beliefs in the Goddess and the God, and how many 'Christian' traditions have their origins in paganism, and a lot of other stuff that I'm sure she both didn't know about and would later convince herself wasn't true. She was polite, but I could tell she was shocked. That was fine with me -- after hearing her prayers over lunch at her desk (loud prayers) for over a year, and having tracts left on my desk, and numerous other little violations, I was roundly tired of this woman. She hung up, sounding rather bewildered, and I knew I'd never hear from her again. And to date, I never have. Essentially, I gave her a dose of her own medicine. Now, I understand you can't do that, but you do have recourse, and I would take it. Go to your managers and let them know that you've been harassed by this woman for however long it's been, that you've repeatedly told her that you don't want and don't appreciate the stuff she's sending you, and that this book is the last straw. As Turtle says, "Stand up, speak out, talk back!" Blessings, -- Gryphontamer --- Msged/2 4.00 * Origin: Elfwhere - The POINTy eared POINT (3:640/531.2379) .