Subj : [ 9/15] Newsgroups: alt.pagan.magick
To   : MOEBIUS
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Wed Feb 21 2001 06:45 pm

> The Moon was red, making TODD HENSON ask RACHEL L. AKERS, "Is this a bad 
sign?"
>  >>    05.01: can you prove that magic exists?
> 
>  >>      how magic works. any extraordinary effects are considered
>  >>      below.
> 
>  TH> Interesting. The above paragraph just said that magic is nothing more
>  TH> than
>  TH> a figment of the
>  TH> imagination. I'm surprised that a pro-occult source would say such a
>  TH> thing.
> 
>  TH> Comments?
> 
> They're rated NC-17...
> 
> 
>  TH> But this article itself feeds the fires of skepticism, because it
>  TH> already said that magic is just the
>  TH> imagination. Therefore, the only real effects that "magic" has would be
>  TH> a change in belief patterns in the practicer.
> 
> It means that reality isn't as objective as thought; that reality is
> /subjective/, and the change in viewpoint and patterns /can/ affect real
> change.


No, that's not what it said. It merely equated magic with imagination. And
no, the laws of reality 
are not altered by your whim. Gravity does not go away if you try to
imagine it doing so.

> 
> Before you ask how, you live in your world, Ray lives in hers and I live in
> mine.


No, you are confusing reality with perception. We all live in the same
reality, even though our 
opinions ABOUT reality may differ. But the laws of physics are the same for
all of us.


> You weren't invited to criticize, however.


Several things:

1) It's called a "FIDO echo", so grow up.

2) I did not criticize the article, I merely commented on what it said, and
wondered how 
occultists felt about it's conclusions. 

So stop being hostile.


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