Subj : [ 3/15] Newsgroups: alt.pagan.magick To : All From : Rachel L. Akers Date : Tue Feb 13 2001 10:22 pm >... (cont) Subject: nagasiva's alt.magick FAQ Summary: This is a file of biased responses to frequently asked questions in the alt.magick newsgroup. Keywords: FAQ, magic, magick, occult, occultism Replaces: 500009 Url: http://www.luckymojo.com/namfaq.html X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.4 (NOV) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:34:31 GMT ____________________________________________________________ 01.00 EDUCATION 01.01 how do I become a mage? >... (cont) be aware that all of these groups have prevalent cosmologies and moral standards, of variable requirement, which may or may not appeal to you, and they may not think of 'magic' in the sense that you do (for example, they may call it 'ebos' in Santeria, 'operations' in the Golden Dawn and OTO, 'workings' or just 'rituals' in Neopagan groups, 'siddhis' in SYDA, 'psychic abilities' in the Berkeley Psychic Institute, 'making miracles possible' in A Course of Miracles groups or 'medicine' amongst Neo-Shamanic groups). the common foundation of these is that they are interacting with or drawing from (a) god(s) or spirit(s) as an integral element of their magical practice. the mage of this categorical type may benefit from a penchance for dramatic ritual, prayer, meditation, and in many cases socializing and politics. in comparison, those drawn to thaumaturgy may find that there are few resources of an organized nature that will supplement hir development, but there are numerous textual references (grimoires, spell lists: both online and off) that can provide for the self-starter a very good foundation in becoming a mage. these practical supplements (and often those who put them together) tend not to rely upon the acceptance of any particular moral, metaphysical, or contractual perspective in order to completely assimilate the working style. cultural contexts sometimes envelope thaumaturgical data, or make it available to the interested student. you can find information about hoodoo, for example, or stregha, gypsy witchcraft, hexencraft, etc., without necessarily encountering these larger, religious, presuppositions. on the other hand, you may find any number of biases surrounding classical grimoires (e.g. Jewish, Christian and Hermetic notions of how and why magic should be performed). the mage of this categorical type may benefit from a penchance for botany, chemistry, craftwork, symbolism, librarianship, and solitary research. it should be said that there are sincere and successful attempts to create or at least *appear* to fabricate a realistic fusion between theurgy and thaumaturgy. many of the styles mentioned above may actively promote magical spells without the need for gods, for example, even though their biases include them. magical approaches such as what is called 'Chaos Magick' may also appeal to those who are attempting to locate more fluid theurgic magical systems without traditional prejudices. syncretic magical traditions like hoodoo in many cases provide the best of both worlds, as they may draw material and ideas from classical theurgists yet have their foundation in natural magic and use herbs and minerals as essential ingredients for successful magical tools and spells. ultimately the best assessment of whether someone is or is not a mage is based upon practical considerations, and particularly those which satisfy the conditions of the chosen significance of the term. as with all labels, the plasticity of identifying someone as a mage is prone to vary greatly, especially with some in the magical community associating any volitional act as an act of magic. proceed at your own risk. ________________________________________________ >... (cont) --- Msged/2 4.00 * Origin: Elfwhere - The POINTy eared POINT (3:640/531.2379) .