Subj : Bush and the Separation of Church and State
To   : RACHEL L. AKERS
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Wed Feb 07 2001 07:04 pm

> Goddess _YOU_ again.


That's not a very healthy attitude.


> >> From newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca.moderated
> >... 
> >> ... United States of America is not... founded on the Christian 
> >> religion... Treaty with Tripoli, 1797, signed by President John 
> >> Adams
> 
> >...
> TH> Take a look at the words of JOHN ADAMS:
> 
> I'm going to assume they are _President_ JA & not some other ijiot


Would I quote any other? If you're not familiar enough with the topic to
immediately recognize 
that, then perhaps posting that article was a bit out of your territory?


> TH> ... Bible ... earlier my children begin to read it, the more 
> TH> confident will be my hope that they will prove useful citizens 
> TH> of their country and respectful members of society. 
> 
> Lordie that's so ethnocentric. The implication that only X-ians could be 
useful
> & respectable members of society.


No it does not. It merely states that it was his children would hopefully
become productive 
members of society by reading it. Perhaps your bias is showing?


> > ... [irrelivant quotes chomped as their ID is not clarified to 
> > non-yanks] remember this _is_ an international echo.
> >.. returning to x-post
> 
> >> ... plain message ... is that George W. Bush's America is a 
> >> Christian nation, and that non-Christians are welcome into the 
> >> tent so long as they agree to accept their status as a tolerated 
> >> minority rather than as fully equal citizens. ...
> 
> TH> ... would be like me going to a Muslim country and expecting 
> TH> them to kiss my behind and stop being a Muslim country. It's 
> TH> asinine.
> 
> You do a great immitation of being an ignorant prat... There are _other_


By your hostile nature, perhaps that label is more suitable for yourself. 


> options. It's not a myopic either/or situation. AFAIC the Duelist mode has
> caused more & bloody fighting than anything else on this planet. & yes I'll
> admit Muslims are just as guilty as X-ians & I'm sure other's will ID other
> situations...


Yes, there is another option  - don't lie and try to deny a country it's
cultural heritage.


> Some examples of _other_ approaches include the "EVERYONE keep their faith
> private" notion and, dare I suggest it, even a multicultural "respect other
> religions" approach. This "accept lower status" is only creating a pluralist


Stating the central cultural role that Christian and related beliefs have
played does not 
disrespect anyone else's beliefs. It is merely stating a fact. So your
false assumption is 
rejected.


> cutlure where there are enclaves of cultures struggling to live independant 
of
> others, a situation that will just not work. A nation needs to work together


The strife comes from those who hold minority opinions and try to deny
everyone else the 
history and heritage that has been a pillar of their country's culture for
so long.


> _NOT_ isolate large sections of it's community for the dualist attitude of
> "their not _us_"...


Then stop whining and start "working together". You can start by dropping
this weird notion that 
"fairness" means never to make any truth claims in case someone else might
get offended. You 
need to understand that posting the kind of ridiculous article that you did
only makes you a 
lightning rod for controversy. So deal with it like an intelligent adult,
rather than calling people 
"ignorant prats".

But I bet you don't see the inherent hypocrisy in acting like that, while
talking about "working 
together".

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