Subj : proposed new nodelist
To   : Goran Eriksson
From : Jasen Betts
Date : Fri Jul 26 2002 01:58 pm

Hi Goran.

24-Jul-02 19:00:48, Goran Eriksson wrote to Haakan Karlsson

 GE>> Secondly, how would you convert a zone or region independent
 GE>> entry that doesn't announce any POTS capability?

 HK>> I don't recognize the problem, maybe I am overlooking something
 HK>> in how the nodelist works.

 GE> Converting such a node to a Pvt listing might cause problems.

 GE> FTS-5000 says:

 >> Pvt --Defines a private node with unlisted number.  Private nodes
 >> are only allowed as members of local networks.

 GE> Even my oldest copy of the FidoNet nodelist specification (FSC-2
 GE> dated 1988-01-02) has an identical requirement. (I would
 GE> appreciate pointers to any other versions of FSC-2, other versions
 GE> of FTS-2 than 1988-11-06 and/or other versions of FTS-5 than
 GE> 1989-02-05, 1996-06-01 and 2001-01-03.

 GE> I've not been able to find any explicit, trustworthy and
 GE> contemporary motivation for this requirement, but I'm speculating
 GE> as follows

 GE> The only ones required by administrative FidoNet policy to offer
 GE> inbound netmail routing are the network hosts. (I know that many
 GE> ZC's, RC's and hubs do the same, but that's another thing.)

 GE> Therefore putting a Pvt node outside a local network (e.g. as
 GE> region or zone independents) would mean that there is noone who is
 GE> required (by policy) to forward netmail to that node

the ZC is responsible for the contents of the nodelist, if there are
unreachable nodes then IMO the ZC (or RC) is responsible for their mail.

 GE> In any case, MakeNl vigorously enforces this restriction

 Yeah, so people put fictional phonen numbers in...
 it's still a private node, it just doesn't look like one to makenl
 (and many other nodelist handling programs).

 GE> and
 GE> therefore I wouldn't be surprised if some other nodelist
 GE> processing tool also rejects such nodes. Furthermore, it would be
 GE> nice to have the 'old style' nodelist so compatible with MakeNl
 GE> that MakeNl can be used to recreate a missing nodediff from two
 GE> 'old style' nodelists created by the sort of conversion programs
 GE> that has been discussed here

sure, a makenl compatible version would be one of the options.

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