Subj : proposed new nodelist [2] To : Frank Vest From : mark lewis Date : Wed Jul 17 2002 07:13 pm FV>>> "spam bots" could be made to "harvest" Node addresses for spam FV>>> purposes. In reality, harvesting would not be needed. Just grab a FV>>> copy of the Nodelist, add yourself into it and spam away. :( ml>> MM>> It is happening already. I throw away hundreds of Fidonet- ml>> MM>> addressed spam daily at my Internet gateway. FV>> True, but those originate from the Internet. As I described, FV>> the spam would originate from a Fidonet Node in the Fidonet FV>> Nodelist operating Fidonet mailer and no way to stop them FV>> since they added their own Nodes listing to the Fidonet FV>> Nodelist. Yes, the *C could remove the listing, but the Node FV>> just adds it back in.... and the battle rages. ml>> there would be a lock mechanism... has to be... and the ml>> "controlling commitee" (if you will) would have that ml>> capability... FV> In the Internet world, the control is in large part by the FV> ISP and you pay the ISP for access. Fidonet has no such t FV> hing... therefore, there would be no controlling committee wanna bet? if the WWB can design and implement an ELIST type service that is controlled by a committee of its members, then i know that there can also be a committee of nodes that can control this "automatic node list"... for that matter, don't even go that far... it would be incumbent on the *C that assigned the new node a number to make the update... FV> except the *Cs and they would have little power with a FV> Nodelist that is open to addition by anyone. My biggest FV> fear for Fidonet is that it will be opened up to the FV> point that anyone can just add themselves into Fidonet FV> without any questions asked. the internet is already like that... FV> If Fidonet is not careful, it could become a place that is FV> little different from the Internet is regards to spam. Much FV> like the spammers, a person could jump from Node number to FV> Node number. Having the ability for "anyone off the street" FV> to add themselves into the Fidonet nodelist is not a good FV> thing for Fidonet. they can do that, already! have been able to for many many many years... FV> Anyway, this is getting off the topic of a Nodelist format. FV> :-) true... )\/(ark * Origin: (1:3634/12) --- SBBSecho/Win32 v2.00 * Origin: Baddog BBS (1:218/903) .