Subj : If
To   : Ross Cassell
From : Michael Gothreau
Date : Sun Oct 06 2002 12:39 pm

Hi Ross,
In a message to All you wrote:

 RC> Hello All!

 RC> If Mr Dale Ross feels I sullied his fine reputation when I commented
 RC> on Michael Gothreaus message, then I was in error for commenting on a
 RC> error.

 RC> I will quickly point out that the shoe has been on the other foot
 RC> several times over the past 18 months and Mr Dale Ross not once
 RC> admitted an error or apologized for spreading errors, innuendos or
 RC> the black helicopter theories.

Let's not forget also, that "something" is going on, and he offered no 
explanation: only complaints.

Yet:

 - Stan Hardegree (one of Dale's points) spouts off in POLITICS that Dale is 
removing POL_INC from his system because POL_INC did not ban Wayne Chirnside 
for offences he committed in entirely different echoes, and Stan also posts his 
fear that Dale will do the same to POLITICS.
- Gary Braswell, moderator of POLITICS, banned Wayne Chirnside from POLITICS 
shortly after that, offering NO reason.  Lo and behold, Gary Braswell is a 
downlink from Dale Ross.
- Dale Ross posts in POLITICS and in here, denying he's doing any of the things 
that Stan Hardegree suggested.
- Dale's point, Stan Hardegree, was recently removed from HOLYSMOKE, but not 
without some reported resistance from Dale, and not without a LOT of 
childishness from Stan, including threatening Martin Goldberg getting it "in 
the neck" for posting as Stan Hardegree in CHATTER some months ago.  Stan 
further tried to intimidate Steve Quarrella by threatening him with complaints 
to AOL and to Earthlink.  Steve did not back down.
- Stan also used the system of another of Dale's points, John Massey, to post 
taunts in POL_INC, an echo Stan was banned from some time ago.  Stan claimed in 
one of those rants that he was the "god of Fido".  The subsequent removal of 
John Massey from POL_INC was not reported to be smooth.
- The relationship between Dale Ross, myself and Dan Ceppa and specifically 
with POL_INC began when Dale asked us to allow him to gate POL_INC to another 
net, and went sour when we refused to allow him to approve any Moderator 
decision which effected a user of that other net.


Now, I am an asshole, myself, and I am fairly good at it, but I am not good 
enough to make all this up, and I am not stupid enough to pull stunts like 
Dale's points have pulled.


Bye bye!
  Michael

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