Subj : Reality Check! To : Matt Bedynek From : Ross Cassell Date : Sun Sep 29 2002 02:59 pm Hello Matt! 28 Sep 02 14:58, you wrote to All: >> I am actually seeing sentiment that echoes not be distributed by the >> Z1B because of the actions of one of its top level hubs of late .. MB> One hub does not make up the entire distribution. But who I speak of is being the most obstinant, I believe you and Todd only want to move the mail, not require people to file reports in triplicate and have it notarized. MB> In all reality, despite the shortcoming of a system I proposed, it MB> would protect the rights of the moderators better. Even if we argue MB> that z1backbone and fn_sysop are special cases, nothing prevents this MB> disease from spreading. It has spread to a hub who warned of the same thing and is doing the same thing to protect his point sysops. >> So one must reconcile the fact that the EK was forced to make a >> determination .. MB> You're telling me that the EK is in the position of resolving MB> conflicts? He was forced or asked to, yes, its his list is it not? MB> That means he is not a keeper at all. One of implied MB> power because his decisions are binding to some degree by various MB> figureheads in this zone. Please, leave the power with the electric company, this fear mongering you sew into your messages, is unbecomming of you. No offense. >> Its rather silly to say we have a echo that belongs to the sysops and >> have a moderator/trustee run roughshod over the owners .. MB> The annual election is the system that protects the users. So they have to endure a set period time of abuse? What happened to sysop rights? MB> The only MB> problem with Roy is that he decided to cut a fellow *C out of the MB> loop, and that was totally unacceptable. A fellow *C? Barry isnt a fellow *C. When the fact elude you, lets make up conspiracy theories and call them the truth.. {shrug} == Ross BBS -> http://www.the-estar.com - telnet://the-estar.com rosscassell@mailshell.com | ICQ = 5305939 .... Are you a resident of Wankerville? --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-20020104 * Origin: The Eastern Star (1:123/456) .