Subj : Re: Reality Check!
To   : All
From : Matt Bedynek
Date : Sat Sep 28 2002 03:58 pm

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:08:02 UTC, "Ross Cassell"
<ross.cassell@1:123/456> wrote:

>I am actually seeing sentiment that echoes not be distributed by the Z1B 
>because of the actions of one of its top level hubs of late ..

One hub does not make up the entire distribution.  In the case of your
colleagues, a collective decision was made to interfere with the
distribution of an echo.  I would never take part in an organization
that interferes with the distribution of an echo and attempts to
oversee moderator prerogative.  If I find this to be the case then I
will discuss the possibility of becoming an independent hub.


>Although you werent around in April 2001, I was the elisted moderator of the 
>Z1BACKBONE echo and I had it taken from me. I had decided to give Dale the 
>password that day, but when I got home that day, the deed had already been 
>done. You can sit and tell me that the Z1B SLA allowed for a vote to replace 
>the moderator, but not a full majority of Z1B members were present to vote. 
>Only 50% or less of the nodes were "consulted" for that vote, I do not doubt 
>the outcome of the vote would have been any different if all were consulted.

In all reality, despite the shortcoming of a system I proposed, it
would protect the rights of the moderators better.  Even if we argue
that z1backbone and fn_sysop are special cases, nothing prevents this
disease from spreading.


>So one must reconcile the fact that the EK was forced to make a determination 
...

You're telling me that the EK is in the position of resolving
conflicts?  That means he is not a keeper at all.  One of implied
power because his decisions are binding to some degree by various
figureheads in this zone.


>Its rather silly to say we have a echo that belongs to the sysops and have a 
>moderator/trustee run roughshod over the owners ..

The annual election is the system that protects the users.  The only
problem with Roy is that he decided to cut a fellow *C out of the
loop, and that was totally unacceptable.

matt
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