Subj : Food for discussion
To   : Steve Quarrella
From : Ed Grinnell
Date : Sun Mar 04 2001 02:09 am

Steve Quarrella was seen kissing Large Marge and telling us:

 SQ> Cobb was definitely in trouble with the league.

HOWEVER, he didn't get banned. That's VERY important.

 SQ> Them's fightin' words, man. :-)

At the time he was banned, Jackson was getting BETTER. It took him a couple of 
years to get used to the park but he was starting to get better. At the same 
time in their careers, Jackson finished with .356 while Cobb was at .368. 
Jackson would have been able to take advantage of the rule changes as well and 
raised his game.

BTW, if you stop Cobb's career in 1919, he'd have been 1400 hits short of his 
career totals and others would have been the standard.

 SQ> There's also that issue of 152/162 games, which plagued Roger Maris

Baloney. There's also the issue of ALL DAY games vs night and day, ALL WHITE vs 
the total spectrum and the tighter strike zone.

 SQ> The point I make is that the HOF makes an issue of activities on and off

They only make issues as they see fit. Cobb's escapades were well known when he 
was enshrined in 1936 and everyone and his mother knew that Ruth was a drunk. I 
hate to say it but "off-the-field" seems to apply only to those that are 
off-white in color.

 SQ> FWIW, I'd like to see the league review the Rose case.  Personally, I
 SQ> think he should be enshrined.  If they could document that he bet on
 SQ> baseball -- they can't, can they, or at least, not on his team? -- I'd
 SQ> be listening, but if it's all hearsay, well, what happened to innocent
 SQ> until proven guilty?

You need to get on the Internet to see some of the damning evidence. I once 
thought Pete wasn't THAT stupid but now, I *KNOW* that he was. The man bet on 
baseball and even more damning, he bet on the Reds. Yes, he bet on them to win, 
however; he still bet on them. While MOST of the fingerprints on betting slips 
and other evidence doesn't meet ALL of the points for evidence, most people are 
in agreement that they are his AND there IS a betting slip that does have a 
PERFECT fingerprint that more than meets the rules of evidence. Rose is as 
guilty as O.J. (Yes, I believe that as well) and deserves to stay out of the 
HOF (I also believe that they should put Comiskey out of the HOF as well. He's 
just as guilty as the ones that committed the crime).

--- TrekEd 1.00
 * Origin: Where did you go, Joe Charboneau? (1:170/1701)

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