Subj : Re: Dead EchoArea? To : Gerald Miller From : Ben Carpenter Date : Sun Apr 13 2003 02:58 pm -=> Quoting Gerald Miller to Ben Carpenter <=- GM> On Sunday March 30 2003 at 21:00, GM> Ben Carpenter [1:106/2000] wrote to Gerald Miller, GM> about: Re: Dead EchoArea? GM> I had made two presumptions... LAN being Local Area Network and that GM> the echoarea being 'self-moderated'. One out of two is a fair start... GM> ;-)) BC> First some questions do I assume that you have the WIN 2000 machine BC> connected to the cable modem using the network card and maybe going BC> through the 4 port switch and router? If so is the connections GM> I can see that I may have befuddled the scenario by mentioning the GM> D-Link VKM switch. I think that Frank may also have been confused by GM> my statement of this switch... ??? The VKM switch permits me to only GM> use one keyboard, one video monitor and one mouse between four GM> computers. I found this to be the easiest way to control the desktop GM> real estate by eliminating redundant equipment. While the use of this GM> switch may have some drawbacks, I find it to be very convenient as I GM> was constantly issuing commands on the wrong keyboard. This sounds like a real workable way to run more than one computer and I have even given it some thought my self. GM> I hope to provide some clarification... All NIC are connected to the GM> Router (LAN side) with the cable modem connected to the WAN side of GM> the same router. I presume that I have some network capabilities on GM> the W2K Pro machine because I can connect to the Internet, I can send GM> and receive email, I can make FTP connections (is that the correct GM> terminology to exchange files between two computers via the Internet?), GM> and I can (almost) use VOIP [Voice Over IP address]... OK You are started to making progress with the W2K machine. With it connected to the router and making net connections for E-Mail etc listed above you have it setup correctly for network functions also, but may need some tweaking to have all network functions working. BC> connecting you to the internet? If you tell me yes then you have BC> that machine setup to work on a network. If not we will have to BC> discuss your network settings as well as your router setting and a BC> wiring diagram of how all you hardware is connected to each other. GM> Wiring diagram of how all the hardware is connected to each other? GM> What a can of worms that is going to be!!! I've tried to keep it as GM> compatible and as simplistic as possible. If you are of the opinion I do not need wiring diagrams. Your above statement about the NIC connected to the router and router connected to cable modem was the info I was looking for. .... ..........Some Deleted.......... GM> Ahhhhhh. I was wanting to accomplish the networking without GM> installing a version of the 'hard disk hungry' Windows. I'm rather GM> limited to hard disk space on the DOS box... I went to a friend that has had more experience at networking than I do and he told me that what you need to do for the DOS machine is to go on the net to the NIC card manufacture and get drivers for DOS to use to setup networking in DOS. GM>> I would also like to be able to access the Internet through the GM>> cable modem from the Legacy machine. If this is the DOS machine then see above about drivers. GM> Well, there is some kind of Windows 3.11 system on the DOS box, but GM> I've not looked at it for quite some time. Would this be a 'key' to GM> communicating with the W2K box? There were two different WIN 3.11 setups one will work and the other will not. Windows for Workgroups (WFWG) 3.11 can be setup for networking the other one can not. GM>> I've been considering installing ZIP221 on both machines: BC> If and when you get both setup to network there will be no need for BC> this utility GM> [ ... snip ... ] GM> This would be a satisfactory end. GM>> but I would have to hunt around for my serial/null modem cable GM>> and serial switch (Legacy machine has external modem on COM1 and GM>> mouse on COM2)... The other concern I have is whether this GM>> program will operate correctly on the Win2K machine - GM>> documentation implies it could be an "iffy" proposition... GM>> Installng the ZIP program _may_ solve the file transfer GM>> requirement, but does not address the Internet/cable modem GM>> requirement... GM>> Can you recommend a FreeWare / (inexpensive) ShareWare program(s) GM>> that would fulfil my requirements AND make use of the existing GM>> network cards and router? BC> For your Windows machine all the functions should already be on you BC> machine but may need to be setup. For the DOS machine you need to BC> sort through the help area and find out if all the needed things are BC> there or not. Maybe someone with experience in DOS networking will BC> jump in and give some advice. OK for starters on the DOS machine get drivers for the NIC and any installation and setup instructions you can get for the drivers. Then review the settings in the Network area of control panel on the WIN machine to obtain info on the setup there so as to make compatible setting on the DOS machine. Most of the setting can and should be the same on both machines except the IP address and the name of the computer. This should bring you up to speed to share files and/or printers, but remember one of the setting is to share files and printers and if you do not have this turned on you can not share them. Your above statement indicates to me you are controlling 4 computers from one keyboard, mouse and monitor. Do I understand that you only want to have two of them on the internet and share files? .... Ben .... Never trust a shop teacher that has less fingers than you do. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .