Subj : Dead EchoArea? To : Ben Carpenter From : Gerald Miller Date : Sat Apr 12 2003 11:25 am Hello Ben, On Sunday March 30 2003 at 21:00, Ben Carpenter [1:106/2000] wrote to Gerald Miller, about: Re: Dead EchoArea? BC> To answer two messages in one yes this is the correct echo to ask BC> this type of question. LAN stands for local area network. I am BC> the moderator so lets tackle you delema and see if we can get it BC> solved. I had made two presumptions... LAN being Local Area Network and that the echoarea being 'self-moderated'. One out of two is a fair start... ;-)) BC> First some questions do I assume that you have the WIN 2000 machine BC> connected to the cable modem using the network card and maybe going BC> through the 4 port switch and router? If so is the connections I can see that I may have befuddled the scenario by mentioning the D-Link VKM switch. I think that Frank may also have been confused by my statement of this switch... ??? The VKM switch permits me to only use one keyboard, one video monitor and one mouse between four computers. I found this to be the easiest way to control the desktop real estate by eliminating redundant equipment. While the use of this switch may have some drawbacks, I find it to be very convenient as I was constantly issuing commands on the wrong keyboard. I hope to provide some clarification... All NIC are connected to the Router (LAN side) with the cable modem connected to the WAN side of the same router. I presume that I have some network capabilities on the W2K Pro machine because I can connect to the Internet, I can send and receive email, I can make FTP connections (is that the correct terminology to exchange files between two computers via the Internet?), and I can (almost) use VOIP [Voice Over IP address]... BC> connecting you to the internet? If you tell me yes then you have BC> that machine setup to work on a network. If not we will have to BC> discuss your network settings as well as your router setting and a BC> wiring diagram of how all you hardware is connected to each other. Wiring diagram of how all the hardware is connected to each other? What a can of worms that is going to be!!! I've tried to keep it as compatible and as simplistic as possible. If you are of the opinion that such a diagram is essential, I will attempt to provide the same in the future... BC> Now for the DOS machine. I know that DOS supports networking without BC> windows but I have never done it myself so I do not know all the BC> details that need to be setup to do it. I just went to a DOS window BC> on this Win95 machine which started out as a DOS 6.0 only machine then BC> was upgraded to Win 3.1 then Win95. I then went to the help area of BC> DOS and did a search on networking and came up with several hits. If BC> you can do this and study the help area you may be able to glean the BC> info to setup the DOS networking. BC> Anyway if and when you can get both machines networking you will need BC> to allow file sharing and then you can transfer files back and forth BC> just the same as you would transfer files between two different hard BC> drives on the same computer. Some programs will run across the BC> network and others will not but the data files can be on any computer BC> in the network and you can not tell the way things function that it BC> is going across the network. Now that statement is based on BC> using Windows on all the machines on the network. DOS may be a little BC> limited or it may not be, I just have not had any experience except BC> with a DOS window and that is depending on the Windows setup to BC> access the network. GM>> Thank you. I'll try to maintain a pleasant type of mind and jump GM>> to the givens: [ ... snip ... ] GM>> I would like to be able to transfer files/data between the two GM>> machines. Floppy disk file transfer is getting to be a PITA! GM>> Some files are too large to place on a floppy disk without doing GM>> some labor intensive juggling. BC> Using windows explorer we transfer files back and forth all the time BC> and sometimes have them going both ways at the same time. Ahhhhhh. I was wanting to accomplish the networking without installing a version of the 'hard disk hungry' Windows. I'm rather limited to hard disk space on the DOS box... GM>> I would also like to be able to access the Internet through the GM>> cable modem from the Legacy machine. BC> This will depend on your getting the machine setup to network and BC> once that is done I see no reason that it will not access the net just BC> fine. My only question has to do with the type of info that you will BC> be able to receive with only a DOS setup. Well, there is some kind of Windows 3.11 system on the DOS box, but I've not looked at it for quite some time. Would this be a 'key' to communicating with the W2K box? GM>> I've been considering installing ZIP221 on both machines: BC> If and when you get both setup to network there will be no need for BC> this utility [ ... snip ... ] This would be a satisfactory end. GM>> but I would have to hunt around for my serial/null modem cable GM>> and serial switch (Legacy machine has external modem on COM1 and GM>> mouse on COM2)... The other concern I have is whether this GM>> program will operate correctly on the Win2K machine - GM>> documentation implies it could be an "iffy" proposition... GM>> Installng the ZIP program _may_ solve the file transfer GM>> requirement, but does not address the Internet/cable modem GM>> requirement... GM>> Can you recommend a FreeWare / (inexpensive) ShareWare program(s) GM>> that would fulfil my requirements AND make use of the existing GM>> network cards and router? BC> For your Windows machine all the functions should already be on you BC> machine but may need to be setup. For the DOS machine you need to BC> sort through the help area and find out if all the needed things are BC> there or not. Maybe someone with experience in DOS networking will BC> jump in and give some advice. BC> ... Ben Thank you for the email address. I'll go into more detail with some email. BC> ... DisneyLand: A people trap operated by a mouse. Been there... Done that... Got cheese! Cheers ... Gerald --- GoldED+/386 v1.1.5-30228 * Origin: You tell 'em Cat. That's what you're fur. (1:342/512) .