Subj : Re: Dead EchoArea? To : Gerald Miller From : Ben Carpenter Date : Sun Mar 30 2003 09:00 pm -=> Quoting Gerald Miller to Matt Mc_Carthy <=- .... ..........Some Deleted.......... Gerald To answer two messages in one yes this is the correct echo to ask this type of question. LAN stands for local area network. I am the moderator so lets tackle you delema and see if we can get it solved. First some questions do I assume that you have the WIN 2000 machine connected to the cable modem using the network card and maybe going through the 4 port switch and router? If so is the connections connecting you to the internet? If you tell me yes then you have that machine setup to work on a network. If not we will have to discuss your network settings as well as your router setting and a wiring diagram of how all you hardware is connected to each other. Now for the DOS machine. I know that DOS supports networking without windows but I have never done it myself so I do not know all the details that need to be setup to do it. I just went to a DOS window on this Win95 machine which started out as a DOS 6.0 only machine then was upgraded to Win 3.1 then Win95. I then went to the help area of DOS and did a search on networking and came up with several hits. If you can do this and study the help area you may be able to glean the info to setup the DOS networking. Anyway if and when you can get both machines networking you will need to allow file sharing and then you can transfer files back and forth just the same as you would transfer files between two different hard drives on the same computer. Some programs will run across the network and others will not but the data files can be on any computer in the network and you can not tell the way things function that it is going across the network. Now that statement is based on using Windows on all the machines on the network. DOS may be a little limited or it may not be, I just have not had any experience except with a DOS window and that is depending on the Windows setup to access the network. GM> Thank you. I'll try to maintain a pleasant type of mind and jump to GM> the givens: GM> LEGACY (DOS) Machine - GM> Pentium MMX 200MHz GM> 512Mb RAM GM> two IBM 512Mb hard drives GM> one AOpen 10/100 MBPS fast EtherNet adapter card GM> one external USRobotic 56K fax/modem GM> Windows 2000 Pro Machine - GM> AMD Duron 760MHz GM> 576Mb RAM GM> one Maxtor 20Gb and one Maxtor 60Gb hard drives GM> one AOpen 10/100 MBPS fast EtherNet adapter card GM> Additional - GM> one D-Link VKM-4 switch GM> one SMC (wired) Barricade router GM> one Motorola cable modem GM> Now, I'd like to discuss the requirements: GM> I would like to be able to transfer files/data between the two GM> machines. Floppy disk file transfer is getting to be a PITA! Some GM> files are too large to place on a floppy disk without doing some GM> labor intensive juggling. Using windows explorer we transfer files back and forth all the time and sometimes have them going both ways at the same time. GM> I would also like to be able to access the Internet through the GM> cable modem from the Legacy machine. This will depend on your getting the machine setup to network and once that is done I see no reason that it will not access the net just fine. My only question has to do with the type of info that you will be able to receive with only a DOS setup. GM> I've been considering installing ZIP221 on both machines: If and when you get both setup to network there will be no need for this utility GM> ===8< Begin Zip 2.21 FILE_ID.DIZ === GM> ZIP 2.21 is a tiny DOS file transfer utility GM> that exchanges files at high speed between GM> desktop, notebook, or handheld computers over GM> a serial or parallel cable. Compatible with GM> Win95/98 too. No memory-resident drivers. GM> User configurable. Menu driven, or command GM> line operation (good in batch files). Can GM> compare directories, back up changed files or GM> entire directory trees. Requires IBM PC GM> compatibles & appropriate cable. Freeware. GM> ===8< End Zip 2.21 FILE_ID.DIZ === GM> but I would have to hunt around for my serial/null modem cable and GM> serial switch (Legacy machine has external modem on COM1 and mouse on GM> COM2)... The other concern I have is whether this program will operate GM> correctly on the Win2K machine - documentation implies it could be an GM> "iffy" proposition... GM> Installng the ZIP program _may_ solve the file transfer requirement, GM> but does not address the Internet/cable modem requirement... GM> Can you recommend a FreeWare / (inexpensive) ShareWare program(s) that GM> would fulfil my requirements AND make use of the existing network GM> cards and router? For your Windows machine all the functions should already be on you machine but may need to be setup. For the DOS machine you need to sort through the help area and find out if all the needed things are there or not. Maybe someone with experience in DOS networking will jump in and give some advice. ... Ben .... DisneyLand: A people trap operated by a mouse. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .