Subj : Can't Touch Horowitz To : BOB KLAHN From : JOHN FITZGERALD Date : Tue Jun 28 2005 07:37 pm .... JF>> No Bob, you just stand there and make empty claims, just like JF>> you're doing now. BK>> Why are you making horowitz the topic? There was another topic, BK>> and you had several sources, yet you are focusing on Horowitz. JF> Horowitz became a topic when you ignored his account of JF> the ACLU's attack on the Boy Scouts and called him a JF> 'hate monger'. BK> No, you made Horowitz the topic when your attempts fell so flat. Sorry Bob, you made Horowitz the topic by ignoring what he said about the ACLU and the Boy Scouts and instead went into your diatribe about why you ignore him...all the while you carried on in great length about him. Wake up. JF> Then it became a fun topic watching you JF> kick and squirm in every conceivable direction trying to JF> back it up, and having read your two latest messages, BK> Only, now you have read my detailed report, BK> and now you see how deep you got yourself in. Gee, Bob. Tell me what else you think I see. I'll believe you. BK> Now you squirm and kick and try to evade it. Now you're just parroting to the contrary. JF> about Horowitz, while you ask "Why are you making JF> horowitz the topic", I can see there's still lots of fun JF> ahead. BK> Yeah, but I'll be the one having fun. You're te one who'll be trying to convince himself through the chant process, as usual. Hey, this IS fun! Your turn. JF> All based on wild stretches and on the assumption that JF> any criticisms from whites made against blacks is, BK> Nice evasion. Someone say's "5", you accuse him of saying "500". No, wild stretches and sweeping exaggerations with nothing to support them has always been the DNC's department, and evidently yours too. BK> OTOH, what business do whites have just plain criticizing blacks? Oh whites can't criticize blacks because their white? Very racist of you to say so. BK> Why would you want to do such a thing. Criticizing BK> people just on the basis of their race, is racist. BK> No question. Given your above 'question' about whites, and given the fact that the criticism was about black on black homocide rates and how much of the black community wants to blame gun manufactures, and in many cases, whites, this accusation just comes off like all the other hypocrisy you've embarked on. Wake up, Bob. JF> brawwwk.. 'rAcIsT'. BK> And your treatment of the discussion like that betrays your complete indifference to racism. My indifference is to the hypocricy on which you've embarked on, and your long entrenched habit of creating rAcIsm out of somthing where there is only political and social indifference. My indifference has always been to white liberals in the DNC who use 'racism' to keep blacks looking backwards just so they can win their votes, becuase as you know, without the black vote, today's Democrats would never win major elections. Not a chance. By necessity they -must- hype and exaggerate matters and keep racial stigmas alive and well. They have no choice. Wake up. BK>> I found out. Franken simply nailed Horowitz on what I said about him. JF> Franken nailed himself with his own reactionary stupidity. Another leftist buffoon whose education far surpasses his intelligence and ability to actually put it to use. BK> And you know all that about Horowitz? I know there's nothing he's said that supports your stigma induced opinion of him. And you have yet to bring one quote of his up front that would do so. All you've done is make claims about articles, most of which only served to show how silly his accusers are. JF>> No, you don't 'have' to. But if you want to debate it you do. BK>> I don't want to debate Horowitz. JF>> But that's exactly what you're doing, Bob.. BK>> I didn't intend to, but I found a lot when I looked up your comment on Horowitz and Franken. He isn't worth working to look up data, but when it's handed to me, that's another matter. JF> Sure, Bob. And now, I'm handing you your excuse right back to you. It didn't fly... BK> And you got it handed back to you in spades. Hmmm.. yet another contrary response that tries to sidewind around the fact that you said you didn't want to talk about someone you carried on about in greath length about. Wake up, Bob. Chanting to get you through the moment doesn't change the fact that you were and still are carrying on in great length about someone you said you didn't want to talk about. Boink! JF> ...and your lengthy preoccupation about someone you don't want to discuss, someone whose book you went out and bought, has been duly noted... BK> I didn't know what a racist he is until I read some of his stuff. And a lousy writer besides. Come on Bob, you see 'racism' out of habit. And after this last load of empty claims and contrary responses, you have still yet to produce one shred of evidence that Horowitz is a "hate monger" or a 'rAcIsT'. Anything you've posted about Horowitz requires the assumption of racism and the racial stigmas that make you 'feel' like he is. --- * 'Help! I'm stuck in the 60's and can't grow up!' * --- * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140) .