Subj : Re: Newsgroup replies to To : Tharius From : Digital Man Date : Wed Aug 31 2005 12:56 am Re: Re: Newsgroup replies to By: Tharius to Digital Man on Wed Aug 31 2005 02:16 am > > "Digital Man" wrote in message > news:4314B9A9.9095.dove-hlp@vert.synchro.net... > > > > Someone gave me a slap on the wrist in Fido (not someone I'm worried > > > about, > > > but they had a point) that my reader was posting replies to ALL instead > > > of > > > the sender. > > > > > > I explored my local groups and see that Outlook responds to messages in > > > the > > > locals and in dovenet just fine, with the TO field being the person I'm > > > responding to, however, my fidonet echomail is responding to ALL > > > > > > Is there perhaps a toggle I made when setting up the other areas that I > > > missed when I did a .na import? Any suggestions are very welcome. > > > No, what you're experiencing is a shortcoming of the NNTP (network news > > transfer protocol) article format (doesn't include a "to" field). The > > I did know that NNTP normally posts to all, and that if we were all using > newsreaders that we probably wouldn't notice at all :) > > > Synchronet NNTP service will use a "to" field if present (or > > "X-comment-to" or > > "apparently-to"), but Outlook Express doesn't add any of those header > > fields. > > But I did guess that Synch was probably doing some post-import processing. It's not "post-import". It's during import. > I think I understand most of what you've said, it's similar in method to the > kludge lines that were (are?) so popular with fidonet messaging to begin > with. Uh, sorta. Some FidoNet header fields (including MSGID) are represented as "kludge lines", while other aren't. So FidoNet messages include MSGID's, but we're talkinga bout RFC822 message-ID's here, not FTN message-IDs. > > This feature *should* work in FidoNet message areas as well. What version > > (and > > revision) of SBBSecho are you using? And what version of Synchronet? If > > you > > I am using SBBSecho 2.10/w32/rev 1.163 and Synchronet 3.12a (Dec 31, 2004) > with the updates to the scripts referred to on the Jan 27 note. Okay, good. There *shouldn't* be any problems then. > > want to investigate the cause more closely, you can view the message > > header > > fields of the message you're replying to in Synchronet (via Telnet) using > > the > > "O, H" command from the reading message prompt. And your reply message > > posted > > in OE should have a "in-reply-to" header field which matches the original > > messages "rfc822msgid" field. > > Here's a 10 million dollar question. In the reply quote header it says > > "Digital Man" wrote in message > news:4314B9A9.9095.dove-hlp@vert.synchro.net... > > If I delete the news: part would that screw up the lookup? No. The header fields are in the "invisible" part of the message. Editing the message body text will have no effect on this lookup. > I have been > removing it thinking of how it must look in 80 character width readers. > > Reply to my original new post, done within Sync > RFC822ReplyID <430F2B83.1.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> > > From one of my replies : > RFC822ReplyID <4310E279.2.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> > RFC822MsgID <43111DB3.3.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> > > Then the reply to that message : > RFC822ReplyID <43111DB3.3.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> > > And my reply to that one > RFC822ReplyID <4311FBC6.4.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> > RFC822MsgID <43132772.5.fidobbsdoord@aceshigh.dyn.dhs.org> It's not clear to me which of those messages was posted via NNTP and which weren't, so I don't really know what to say. > The specific echo this has been noted in is FN_SYSOP, but I've also observed > it in BBSDOOR_DISCUSSION If you post a reply via NNTP and the RFC822ReplyID field matches the original message's RFC822MsgID field, then the "to" user should be automatically set accordingly. digital man Snapple "Real Fact" #107: You burn more calories sleeping than watching TV. .