Subj : Re: Shutdown Before Boot To : Terinjokes From : Sniper Date : Wed May 18 2005 06:37 pm -=> Terinjokes wrote to All <=- Te> Hello, Te> My computer is expiencing some problems. The processor dies before it Te> finshes booting. When i turn it on i get to the GRUB screen, and can Te> select either XP or Red Hat. If i select XP i can get to an error that Te> says 'You clock seems to be wrong, windows can help you set it right'. Te> Of Course it would be wrong as i cleared BIOS hoping that would fix it. Te> If i select Red Hat (Fedora Core 3) i can get to the splash screen and Te> it dies when it goes to load KDE (or GNOME, i like KDE but GNOME is Te> also on there). Its not my hard drive (KNOPPIX freezes at the exact Te> same spot), nor graphic card (tried my friends card), and tried with Te> and without keyboard/mice (never know) and without a graphics card (i Te> guess it freezes in BIOS as it never seems to turn its self off, nor Te> play the Windows/Red Hat start-up music (windows is default). All wires Te> are hooked up right, and everything is in its slots. What can cause Lemme see... Lets start with the obvious... Has this computer worked prior? What OS? Have you added any new devices, network cards, Sound cards, memory, etc., to the system? Any new programs? I see you have a dual boot, so I'm guessing it ran before... Internally, can you check the fans. Specifically the one on the processor itself. Is it working ? Might your systems BIOS have settings for temprature settings? If its overheating, it may have a shut down temp set, and that may be too low... although, its usually pretty close, just depends on the processors capabilites. If you enter the BIO's, does the computer shut down after a few minutes by itself? If you can't read the screens because they go by too fast, and you have access to a digital camera, its possible to take a picture of the scree, or in some cases, the camera has a "Video" recording feature and you can use that... From what your saying that 2 different linus distros seem to freeze in the same place, I'm going to hazzard a guess that its the Network Card... If its an onboard type card, try disabling it in BIOS, and removing it if its a seprate card. Then try booting up... if that doesn't work, move to the next possiblity, the sound card. Same thing applies... disable it or remove it... try booting up... Other things to check... if you added memory, remove it, try booting... Things like that... What your trying to do is eliminate any possible hardware errors... take it down to the motherboard and video and also swap out the video card "With the other components removed", as that could change PCI/IRQ settings... The last and worst case senerio is the motherboard going... That's pretty hard to "Test", unless your motherboard came with a bootable disk you can run diagnostic tests with... But, those are few and far between. I'd eliminate the other components from the list first though... I mean, if you take out the sound card, boot and it does the same thing, its probably not that... so, that's eliminated from the first problem list. Although there could be a in conjunction problem... Sound Card and Network card interferring with each other. That should get you started... :) Keep us updated! Sniper Killed In Action BBS, telnet://kiabbs.org Home of the Unofficial SynchroNet Support Network. download the info pack at any of the below sites: http://www.chcomputer.net/USSNET.ZIP or http://www.ussnet.org .... Look here brother, who you jivin' with this cosmic debris. --Zappa --- MultiMail/Linux v0.45 þ Synchronet þ Killed In Action - telnet://kiabbs.org .