Subj : Re: About GWB
To   : Finnigann
From : Angus McLeod
Date : Sat Oct 08 2005 11:23 pm

  Re: Re: About GWB
  By: Finnigann to Angus McLeod on Sat Oct 08 2005 22:22:00

 >  AM> I've heard this suggestion before, and never given it much credence.
 >  AM> Despite his own claims, SH *didn't* give his Dad a whippin' a decade
 >  AM> earlier, unless you consider it in the most simplistic of terms.  But
 >  AM> perhaps he (GWB) was/is stupid enough to allow that to be a
 >  AM> justification for his actions, in his own mind.
 > 
 > But after the election and Clinton was our president. Sadam bragged that
 > George Bush may have won the war, but I am still inpower. To the Bush
 > family tree, that's gott smart.

That's what I meant by "in the most simplistic of terms."  SH pointed out 
that Bush was no longer President while he (SH) was still in power, and 
based upon these circumstances, the claim that he had defeated Bush.  But 
given the nature of American politics, nobody took that seriously, not 
even within Iraq itself.  Dumb as he may be, I find it hard to believe 
that this idea was much of an influence on GWB's decision to attack Iraq.

I consider it more likely that subsequent to Desert Storm, he may have 
heard GHWB saying something like "We should have finished him while we had 
the chance..." and felt that the chance to finish the job should not be 
neglected.  But that is *purest* speculation on my part.

 >  AM> So the Iraqi war has been a great success for GWB.  It won him
 >  AM> re-election, and the vast majority of dumb-ass citizens have forgotten
 >  AM> all about OBL/Afghanistan and continue to swallow the crap being
 >  AM> spoon-fed to them by the administration spin-doctors.
 > 
 > Not all... but less and less everday.

Well, I feel it successfully diverted attention away from Afghanistan/OBL 
and essentially won him re-election.  Don't forget that prior to the 
election, he was claiming that troop pull-out would begin in January 2005.  
We are now hearing carefully reasoned arguments suggesting that the US 
presence in Iraq may well have to be *permanent*.....

 > In fact I think richardw Jazzman and Ralph maybe the last hold outs... (-:

Ralphie is a Texan, so you gotta give him a break.  richardw seems to be 
horrified that anyone would disagree with the president, no matter *what* 
he said or did.  Sort of like Papal Infallibility, Republican-style.  
Jazzy?  He would argue that black is white and that the sky is pink, if 
you only suggested otherwise.  He is long on vitriol, short on facts and 
is such a deaf, dumb and blind kid that he should take up pinball.  You 
can safely ignore jazzy, because he in effect, doesn't really matter.


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