Subj : Re: Um...no comment? To : Frank Reid From : Finnigann Date : Sat Sep 17 2005 12:33 am -=> Frank Reid wrote to Finnigann <=- FR> Re: Re: Um...no comment? FR> By: Finnigann to Frank Reid on Fri Sep 16 2005 14:15:00 > FR> Maybe if we focused more on the things that our government must (and > FR> should) be doing, like military, infrastructure and the like, we'd be > FR> less distracted by the myriad social causes in which the government has > FR> no business whatsoever purusing! > > Exactly, let's just use the >$100,000 folks as land fill in NO... > At least they can be of some use. > > Oh wait, I know. They could be consigned to some drug company > and used like test dummies. They're almost close enough to > human as to be valuble that way. > > Blessed be the LORD, Frank has stumbled onto a way of turning the > worth-less citizenry in to wage earning HUMANs. ALBEIT for a short > time, but long enough to get some tax revenue back for all the > years that they have sucked poor Frank dry. > > Good Job Frank... take the day off, you've earned it! FR> Thanks, I needed the break! :) FR> Okay, convince me that federal government can do it better (more FR> efficiently and cost-effectively) than private enterprise. I can list The state of highways in the USA at the beginning of the last century. It took Lt Eisenhower 27 days to convoy accross the USA. Later when he became president (not had changed) He ordered the INterstate highway system be built. He figured it was for National defense to be able to move men and material from where it was to hwere it was needed. Today the USA has the best highway system in the world. However the system is in decline from extensive use by commercial traffic. No private contractor no any list of contractors you could create and control could have built the highway system that is the back bone of this country. It took funding and control of the Federal government to get it done. On the other side. I don't think there is a single instance of an asphalt palnt operated by government. All of the material to build the highways is contracted for. FR> hundreds of reasons why the federal government can administer a FR> war-fighting force better than mercenaries, and I can calculate exactly FR> why private industry would have no interest in the return on investment FR> from building a highway. Now, show me statistically why the federal FR> government is a better choice to administer a hospital. [Here's one for you to help you with other parts of this message] Health care. Health care when administered by 'for profit' corps has a disastorous efect on the patients. Medical decisions by corporate by laws doesn't work. People suffer and die as a result. Also the regulating portion has helped create a system of health second to none. Now if we can make this great system available to the masses... FR> I think the problem is that you can't wrap your head around the fact FR> that the business of life-and-death could be profit driven, but that's You can't have three choices in business. It's either life or profits. And in business they have to cut it as close as possible and still make a profit. That's the rub. Somone has to say when profits take a back seat and business can't do that. All business models have but one goal, that is to make maximum amounts of profit for ever dollar invested. To do less can result in the CEO loosing his job. I don't want a flow meter on my tank of O2. The American worker has created this wealthy nation with the sweat and blood of generations of labor. They deserve better than to be a varible in a cost equation. Civilzation got along for 10,000 years with out corporations Humans got along for 5x as long. Corporations are NOT the secret ingrediant. They have increased profits but they always come from men working. Corporations are NOT protected in the constitution. People are. Great presidents recognize that it is the people first and foremost, and always should be. FR> life in a capitalist society. The fact is that those with more money FR> will always receive better health care (and better everything) than FR> those without. The lesson is that people need to take responsibility FR> for their own futures by getting an education, honing their talents and FR> competing in the job market. Or it ccould be that people are not getting the ful value of their efforts. And riches do not always have the '$' in front of it. You can't buy friends, nor lovers (maybe you can rent them...) Things of real value, the irreplacable stuff doesn't have a price tag on it, nor could you place such a value. FR> You can sit around on the rooftop waiting for the federal government to FR> bake your cookies if you like, but you've seen how that works... If I find my self in such a situation, I hope we have a government that still cares enough to send that helicopter. .... The BUCK stops here! So, now let's move over there. 'w' --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 þ Synchronet þ Bits-N-Bytes BBS Onehellofa BBS bnb.dtdns.net .