Subj : War, What's it good for? To : All From : Finnigann Date : Fri Sep 16 2005 01:02 pm This was originally posted in 2002 (but I just saw it today.) Still seems to have some relevance even today. War is always the worst choice. Sometimes, *rarely*, though it's the only choice. ALL else is quoted from a message base at http://www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-35638.html CHARACTER MATTERS The Democratic leadership in the House and Senate: House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt - Served his country in uniform, 1965-71 House Minority Whip David Bonior - Served his country in uniform, 1968-72 Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle - Served his country in uniform, 1969-72 President of the Senate Albert Gore - Served his country in uniform, 1969-71 President Jimmy Carter served as a Navy officer in WW2 on a nuclear (that's Noo-Clee-AR) submarine. The Republican leadership in the House and Senate: Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve. Majority Leader Dick Armey- avoided the draft, did not serve. Majority Whip Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott - avoided the draft, did not serve. THE CHICKENHAWKS Conservatives make great fun of President Clinton for questioning the Vietnam War, standing up to his beliefs and questioning his own participation in that war as well, i.e., being honest and walking the walk of his own belief system at least for a time. On the other hand there were literally millions of dishonest hypocritical, cowardly right-wing loonies who supported the war while refusing to personally participate. Here are just a few: Elliott Abrams - Sought deferment for bad back. Richard Armey - Sought college deferment, too smart to die. Bill Bennett - Sought graduate school deferment, too smart to die. Pat Buchanan - Sought deferment for bad knee. George W. Bush - Daddy got him in the reserves. Was AWOL for 18 months from the Air National Guard. Desertion from the US military is a capital offense, can be punished by hanging. Also has a criminal rapsheet of multiple arrests for DWIs that has magically disappeared. Dick Cheney - Sought graduate school deferment, too smart to die. Tom DeLay - - Sought college deferment, too smart to die. Newt Gingrich - Sought graduate school deferment, too smart to die. Phil Gramm - Sought marriage deferment, too loved to die. Jack Kemp - Sought medical deferment while in the NFL. Rush Limbaugh - Sought deferment for ingrown hair follicle on his ass. Trent Lott - Sought deferment, didn't want to muss his hair. P.J. O'Rourke - Sought deferment, too stoned. Dan Quayle - Family got him into the Reserves. Pat Robertson - Father pulled him out of Korea as soon as the shooting began. Kenneth Starr – Sought deferment for psoriasis. John Wayne - Sought deferment to further acting career. Vin Weber - Sought deferment for asthma. George Will - Sought deferment, too much of a wussy. Half the men killed in Vietnam were 18 or younger. Draftees were twice as likely to be killed than enlistees. Only 2% were college graduates. The vast majority of those sent to combat were either minority or poor. The result of the Vietnam War was not only the 58,000 young American boys who died, but 1 million North Vietnamese soldiers, 2 million Vietnamese civilians with over 4 million more wounded. The above mentioned little hypocritical cowards wished then, and still wish today that all those figures were higher. Never forget that we dropped three times as much ordinance on Vietnam as we did in all theaters of war in WW2. So when these little Chickenhawks talk of fighting that war with our hands tied behind our backs, be sure to understand that what they mean is we should have either instituted a full scale ground invasion into North Vietnam with projected other-not me American deaths in the hundreds of thousands of American soldiers, or we should have dropped megaton class hydrogen bombs on major population centers throughout Southeast Asia. .... The BUCK stops here! So, now let's move over there. 'w' --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 þ Synchronet þ Bits-N-Bytes BBS Onehellofa BBS bnb.dtdns.net .