Subj : Re: Global Warming
To   : Finnigann
From : richardw
Date : Wed Oct 12 2005 09:49 am

  Re: Re: Global Warming
  By: Finnigann to richardw on Wed Oct 12 2005 01:03 am

 >  >  >   Maybe, Maybe not. But they don't disput that it
 >  >  >   happening.
 >  >
 >  >  ri> I don't necessarily believe it's not happening.
 >  >
 >  >  Oh, *now* you're agnostic...
 > 
 >  ri> I just don't believe it to be man-made.
 > 
 > But it might be man-triggered.
 > 
 >  >  ri> Huh?  Support for what?
 >  >
 >  > You've forgetten your position already?
 > 
 >  ri> You apparently never understood my position... as is so common when it
 >  ri> differs from your own.
 > 
 > That's an understatement. But you hardly ever go into details just rant
 > on about what you don't want to happen... I do get lost sometimes.
 > 
 >  > 4.5 Billion years in one form or another.
 > 
 >  ri> Sounds familiar.
 > 
 > Copyrighted by Carl Sagan
 > 
 >  ri> OK... here's something for you you ponder.
 > 
 >  ri> During most of the last 1 billion years the globe had no permanent ice.
 > 
 >  ri> (NOTE - no permanent ice.)
 >                        ri> However, sometimes large areas of the globe were
 > covered with vast ice
 >  ri> sheets. These times are known as ice ages.
 > 
 >  ri> Ice Ages are intervals of time when large areas of the surface of the
 >  ri> globe are covered with ice sheets (large continental glaciers). The
 >  ri> term is used to describe time intervals on two very different scales.
 >  ri> It describes long, generally cool intervals of Earth history (tens to
 >  ri> hundreds of millions of years) during which glaciers waxed and waned.
 >  ri> The term also describes shorter time periods (tens of thousands of
 >  ri> years) during which glaciers were near their maximum extent. These
 >  ri> shorter intervals are also known as "glaciations."
 > 
 > It has something to do with the configuration of the land masses. One
 > big mass and you don't get the same seasonal changes etc.
 > 
 >  ri> In addition, the term "Ice Age" is sometimes used to refer to the last
 >  ri> major glaciation that occurred in North America and Eurasia.
 > 
 >  ri> Many glacial advances and retreats have occurred during the last
 >  ri> billion years of Earth history. These glaciations are not randomly
 > 
 >  You are the first person to tell me this. Most data I have ever read
 >  about is in the millions of years time frame.
 > 
 >  ri> distributed in time.Instead, they are concentrated into four time
 >  ri> intervals. Large, important glaciations occurred during the late
 >  ri> Proterozoic (between about800 and 600 million years ago), during the
 >  ri> Pennsylvanian and Permian (between about 350 and 250 million years
 >  ri> ago), and the late Neogene toQuaternary (the last 4 million years).
 >  ri> Somewhat less extensive glaciations occurred during parts of the
 >  ri> Ordovician and Silurian (between about 460 and 430 million years ago).
 >  ri> During each of these periods, many glacial advances and
 >  ri> retreatsoccurred.  For example, over 20 glacial advances and retreats
 >  ri> have occurred during the last 2 million years.
 > 
 >  ri> If "ice age" is used to refer to long, generally cool, intervals during
 >  ri> which glaciers advance and retreat, we are still in one today. Our
 >  ri> modern climate represents a very short, warm period between glacial
 >  ri> advances.
 > 
 >  ri> http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/
 > 
 >  ri> Hmm... That's all very interesting.  It would seem we're still in a
 >  ri> sort of Ice Age.  It would also seem to be a sort of cycle.  Gee, I
 >  ri> hope you are right about this Global Warming trend.  I hate ice.  It's
 >  ri> scary riding my motorcycle on ice... I refuse to do it.
 > 
 >  >  > The Duke analyses examined solar changes over 22 years
 >  >  > versus 11 years used in previous studies. The cooling
 >  >  > effect of volcanoes and cyclical shifts in ocean
 >  >  > currents can have a greater negative impact on the
 >  >  > accuracy of shorter data periods.
 >  >  >
 >  >   >  ri> What makes you think we could EVER do anything about it?
 >  >
 >  > What makes you think we can't do SOMETHING about it. Maybe not enough,
 >  > but something is better than nothing. (in this case)
 > 
 >  ri> Why do you want to alter the normal climatic cycles of the planet?
 > 
 >  ri> You're really starting to scare me.  People like you are just way out
 >  ri> of control.
 > 
 > I'm not advocating global climate control, such a thing is impossible at
 > our level of technology (so far). I just don't want us to trigger one
 > prematurely, is all.

Personally, I think you, along with millions of others, have bought into 
the biggest political hoax mankind has ever seen.  

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