Subj : The War Has No Clothes
To   : Frank Reid
From : Daemon
Date : Thu Oct 06 2005 10:37 pm

  Re: The War Has No Clothes
  By: Frank Reid to Jazzman on Thu Oct 06 2005 06:30 am

 >  > The proposed mechanism is that of a solid Iraqi govenerment that's
 >  > able to stand on it's own. Once that happens, i think we will all
 >  > be fascinated.
 > 
 > Exactly correct!  No one should expect some magical democratic
 > transformation over night.  We're not trying to establish a "mini-US"
 > there, and it will take some time, but it's very reasonable to expect
 > Iraq to flourish as a democratic society.  As I've mentioned before (on
 > another sub and long ago), the Iraqi people have historically been one
 > of the more progressive cultures in that region.

  Yeah, but Frank...  It's a LOT more than a relatively simple political
transformation that the administration's trying to force.

  Democracy and the fundamentally patriarchal religious culture of the region
just do NOT mix.  Saddam Hussein didn't rise to power and create his
dictatorship out of thin air; he rose to power in exactly the manner in which
the culture beneath him defines as a matter of course along their most basic
idea of familial and religio-governmental structure.

  By forcing democracy down their throats militarily, we're literally usurping
their most basic rights to choose their own essential world-view.

  The only thing keeping their culture from snapping back to where they
naturally belong (HARD) is our presence, and the "insurgency" is the most
visible sign of that pendulum trying desperately to swing back in the other
direction where, as far as they're concerned, it belongs.

  *shrug*  I hope I'm very wrong here, to be honest, but so far it's gone
literally exactly as I was predicting it would before we even went in and GWB
et al were talking about what a cakewalk it would be.


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