Subj : The War Has No Clothes To : Jazzman From : Finnigann Date : Thu Oct 06 2005 08:35 am -=> Jazzman wrote to Daemon <=- Ja> OTE: TIDE 1.11 > all. I hold no hatred for differing POVs or the people that hold them, but > great deal of disdain for straw man arguments masquerading as reasoned and > supported POVs and the people who present them. Ja> Then you must be most miserable since *ALL* of your postings are Ja> arguments from assorted left-wing radical web sites masquerading Ja> as factual data. You want to throw the word "straw-man" around, Ja> you should as you are the ultimate GURU of straw-man arguments. > Of late, you've presented yourself as a dedicated member of the way/no-way > argument club. (Maybe more than lately, actually, but I can't say I've > bothered to read anything you've posted before recently, so I leave that to > gallery to decide.) Ja> Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. That's one of your main problems, you close your Ja> eyes whenever anyone points you towards the light. And further, you Ja> lie. You say you havn't bothered reading anything i've posted recently Ja> but you continue to respond to all my posts. > See, the opinions, values, and beliefs aren't what I have a problem with. > They, in case you really are too ignorant to know this, are what makes > communication possible between any two individuals, in any capacity, in any Ja> Then you aren't being truthful. And in case *your* to ignorant to know Ja> this, there are many types of communication and many capacities of Ja> which to communicate. Diversity of opinion can be a good thing as long Ja> as logical and respectful debate/argument can be maintained. Clearly, Ja> your unable to be respectful. > Unless one side of the discussion has too dimly-lit an intellect to bother > with citations of fact and simply conducts itself in a sophomoric > self-congratulatory manner for simply managing to present their POV in (most > coherent sentences. Ja> You've nailed it. Defined yourself to a tee. > Noone's going to congratulate you for being able to present a "way/no-way" > style rebuttal to structured debate. I, maybe far less than others, but hey > that's the price you pay for offering ignorant supposition as a rebuttal to > specifically cited sources. If you've been paying attention to my conflicts > you imply, a modest amount of forethought may have inspired you to either > be prepared to support your position or not try to pass it off as a supporti > one to begin with. Ja> The only ignorant argument being offered here is yours. Your the one Ja> trying to pass off "paranoid left-wing" propaganda as factual data. > Then you wouldn't have to be sitting there whining right now. Ja> It appears to me your the one whining and tossing insults. Apparently, Ja> that's about the tall and short of you. > Sure you are. Every counter you offer devoid of reasoned support is > ego-masturbation. Without anything backing it up, it could hardly be anythi > more. Ja> Again, something you evidently know lots about. You really come across Ja> as someone with a horrible attitude. > Let's remember here that this discussion began with you decrying an editor > piece I offered for discussion and that you chose to discuss by very obvious Ja> Why don't you remember correctly ? You offered a link for review and Ja> i reviewed it and then commented. "Opinionated dumbness" if i remember Ja> correctly. I stand by that remark. Since you didn't write it, i don't Ja> quite see why your so offended by my comments. Is it merely due to the Ja> fact that i'm right ? If you wish to subscribe to that conspiracy Ja> theory crap ( and that's exactly what it is..crap), be my guest. Just Ja> don't act so surprised whenever someone can tell the difference Ja> between what's real, and what's fantasy. > *shrug* To which, all I replied with was essentially a request for you to > justify your position if his was so unjustifiable. Ja> There is no need to justify opinionated dumbness. It's a conspiracy Ja> theory without merit. Basically, who cares ? Reading that was a Ja> complete waste of time. Reminded me alot of your drivel. > Hardly my fault that, to this day, you have utterly failed to even make an > attempt to do so. Ja> And you have utterly failed to make a point. This is sounding more and more like a PEe Wee herman script (and a bad one at that) Why not take on the points made in these messages (if you want to) and leave the "Oh yeah? You are too..." stuff for the playground. If you want to sound adult, that is. ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ ³ "We live in a society exquisitely ³ dependent on science and technology, ³ in which hardly anyone knows anything ³ about science and technology." ³ - Carl Sagan .... Does killing time damage eternity? --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 þ Synchronet þ Bits-N-Bytes BBS Onehellofa BBS bnb.dtdns.net .