Subj : The War Has No Clothes To : Frank Reid From : Finnigann Date : Thu Sep 29 2005 07:47 pm -=> Frank Reid wrote to Angus McLeod <=- FR> No offense, but that statement simply reflects your infamiliarity with FR> how the military breeds honor, courage and commitment. The Michael FR> Moores and Cindy Sheehans of the world would love to have you believe FR> otherwise, but there are few if any soldiers in harm's way who would FR> run from their duty. That is a reflection on the soldiers and NOT the duty. > > So how can one take a position, at home in an armchair and watching like > > spectator sport, that their dedication, courage and integrity are fruitle > > I see their actions and sacrifice bearing no fruit. FR> Then you might as well spit on them as they exit the plane on their FR> return home. To say they lost life, limb and innocence for no reason FR> is just the same. No it's not. It is eveyone's duty to decide if they support the leaders. Anything less is spitting on our service members. > > It is patently inane for anyone to ever suggest "I support our troops, bu > > don't support the war." The two concepts are mutually exclusive. > FR> Save the cliches for the bumper stickers! You cannot support the FR> warrior if you do not support the war. What you really want to say is FR> something like: FR> - Even if soldiers don't do it with malice, they're still FR> committing criminal acts. Horse Hockey... If the soldier is doing his duties, it then falls to the leaders to be right or not. In this case it's NOT FR> - Although my beef is with the idiots in charge, soldiers are FR> simply mindless drones who can only do what they're ordered. Not mindless... You are insulting some very brave people. FR> - A soldier could recognize the criminality of what they do, FR> drop their weapon and leave the battlefield. Every Servicemember is responsible to follow lawful orders, but that's not the case here. the blame falls squarely on 'w' or it would if he had anything like balls. FR> None of those are what a soldier would consider adulation and praise! I am beginning to think you don't have a clue about military service... They are not in it for praise or adulation. Nor the money nor the fame... it's an internal thing. ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ ³ "We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, ³ in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology." ³ - Carl Sagan ³ .... I think I saw some of these people at Woodstock. - Fox Mulder --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 þ Synchronet þ Bits-N-Bytes BBS Onehellofa BBS bnb.dtdns.net .