Subj : Re: Death Penalty
To   : richardw
From : Finnigann
Date : Wed Sep 28 2005 01:34 pm

-=> richardw wrote to Sniper <=-

 ri>   Re: Re: Death Penalty
 ri>   By: Sniper to richardw on Tue Sep 27 2005 10:39 pm

 >  >  > What's disturbing:
 >  >  >
 >  >  > U.S. Supreme Court, ruling in a Georgia case, said studies like Califo
 >  >  > were not grounds for reversing death cases, unless racial bias could b
 >  >  > by an individual defendant.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > So, some racial influence is OK with the Supreme Court...
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Is there still wonder why some people hate others?
 >  >
 >  >  Ja> No, what's disturbing is your sympathy for murderers and the fact th
 >  >  Ja> since 1977 (according to the article your using) California has only
 >  >  Ja> executed 11. There are 645 inmates on death row.
 >  >
 >  > I have no sympathy for criminals. But can you be sure that everyone in ja
 >  > guilty?
 >
 >  ri> We have a process to determine their guilt.  It's called a trial by
 >  ri> jury of their peers.  Perhaps you'd suggest a better alternative?
 >
 > You know...  I've seen you two constantly go at it over just about every
 > bleeping thing in the world... Can't you 2 agree on one thing?  I
 > know... That you both agree to disagree!  :)
 >
 > Seriously... I don't trust the judicial system.  Too many people have been
 > convicted and later found to be innocent.  My thoughts on this capitol
 > punishment... just one mistake is too many.  Lets consider this... are you
 > bound to tell the truth?  Who's to say if the "Eye Witness" is telling the
 > truth?  I'm sorry, your saying a "Trial by jury of their peers" is frought
 > with too many gray areas.

 ri> There are flaws in the system, but this is a fact we have to live with.
 ri> Throughout history, I'm sure SOMEONE has been improperly executed.  I'm
 ri> willing to accept that in light of the people protected by the
 ri> termination of so many other severely twisted individuals.

 ri> If 1000 severly twisted individuals are put down, and one innocent goes
 ri> with them... I'm very sorry.  It's very sad, but we are human, and we
 ri> make mistakes.  We will do everything in our power to prevent these
 ri> mistakes, just as we do everything in our power to prevent auto
 ri> accidents.  I don't think we should stop driving because of them, and I
 ri> don't think we should allow twisted individuals to live because of the
 ri> potential for error.

 ri> Just my opinion of course.


Well who could argue with that?

Trouble enters the equation with your method of determining 'twisted'

Or even associated with the crime. Good men have died because they just
couldn't afford a high priced lawyer. 

This is not what the founders had in mind.



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