Subj : Remote - Local Time synchro
To   : Renato Zambon
From : Gerald Miller
Date : Mon Jul 29 2002 07:16 pm

Hello Renato,

  Monday July 29 2002 13:19,
  Renato Zambon wrote to Gerald Miller:

 GM>> probably one of the few remaining people who refuse to get
 GM>> an ISP; for the simple fact that very few ISPs will install
 GM>> / support their services on a computer that is NOT Window
 GM>> based.
 RZ> I use both, bbs and internet since 93... you can dispense W*
 RZ> and use internet utils for DOS, *nix, OS2, whatever. They
 RZ> all have support areas in fido. Or stay in bbs-only.

I was on Inet using Win3.11 via the modem (read: SLOOOOW...), but
that was many years ago...   8-)

I lost interest with all the hype about "You NEED new hardware!",
"You Need new software", "You need ....". and then getting kicked
about again when told to upgrade Windows because the version I'm
using will not be supported and it won't be compatible with the
NEW system....

 GM>> Are you planning to post the "Rules" or do you intend to
 GM>> let the Echo area be "self regulated"?  The reason for my
 GM>> queries is that
 RZ> I hope the 2nd option works,

Ditto!  Emphatically!!!

 RZ> otherwise I'll need to elect or

I hope not...

 RZ> designate a new mod,

I hope not...

 RZ> I've no vocation for echo-sentinel.

Ditto!  Hence, "hope the 2nd option works,".....

 GM>> I'm seeking an echo area in which to discuss Jonathan de
 GM>> Boyne Pollard's "32-bit Command Interpreter" and "OS/2
 GM>> Command Line Utilities", both of which are for OS/2.  You
 GM>> may remember
 RZ> I don't know these. Played some with 4OS2.

I'm in the process of "building" a server and I installed OS/2
Warp Server version 3.0 and I'm going to overwrite it with
version 4.x...  I just received Jonathan's programs and have not
yet set them up because of the Server version upgrade.  I imagine
I could get info in one of the OS/2 echo areas...

 GM>> May I presume that you are using some "form" of JPSoft
 GM>> product as a shell?
 RZ> 4DOS, when in prompt, or batch files. Most time however in
 RZ> W98 GUI.

That's a good start....  Not being very experienced with W98, I
have to ask if there is a technique by which you can save a
screen image to the clipboard &/or file?  Converting an "art"
file to an ASCII text file may be problematic..

 GM>> /_if_/ you are able to maintain a log file or a session
 GM>> capture file.  With the method that I'm attempting to
 GM>> clarify with Jasen (uses my Mailer program log file and the
 GM>> information exchanged via the EMSI handshake), you may get
 GM>> some insight(s) on a process that is better suited for your
 GM>> purpose.
 RZ> Question in queue: how to get, via DOS, in batch files, info
 RZ> from time servers like ntp.nasa.gov, ntps1-1.cs.tu-berlin.de
 RZ> or others...

Not being familiar with any time servers.....  Are they
graphical, text, or audio signal format?  When you are on the
time server systems, why not open up another window with the
Windows system clock and attempt to synch within the GUIy
environment?

When I used to work at a hearing impaired clinic, they had the
computer systems rigged to set all the machine time in synch with
the National Research Council's 11:00:00.00 Time Signal and that
was an auditory signal....

How (software wise) are you tossing your mail on the Internet?
I'm sure that a program such as IRex, would provide you with log
files whereby you could extract connect times.  Or, maybe check
out the Windows version of FrontDoor?  I suspect that using any
of the preceeding software will not provide the accuracy provided
by a time server.....  I'll be satisfied if I can synch my system
time to that of my host.  B-))

           Cheers ... Gerald

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