Well I have added iubio.bio.indiana.edu to the Multi-Site Jughead It now has 474740 selectors in its database. It makes me think again of what the best direction of the hal3000 jughead is. It seems possible, and as I have learned more, even fact that veronica really is jughead across the net. You see I have never been able to compare source, only function and untill recently hadn't found the answer to that question, not even partially. What I have found is what seems a reasonable explanation in that veronica truely _is_ a jughead that is roboticaly updated across the net, and that a jughead was generally considered to be pointed at one site. The difference between the two was only in use and to where and how they were pointed, even going so far to claim the source was the same as to the search. That would put my multiple site jughead somewhere between a jughead search and a veronica search. I am using Jonzy's Universal Gopher Hierarchy Excavation And Display as a search engine on a prebuilt table (as opposed to a linear view) many thanks to Rhett "Jonzy" Jones . I run it as he created it and point it to the sites indicated in the About_Multi_Search file. Therefore what is here is a Jughead pointed at multiple sites. Having never seen a veronica source and not sure there is truely one now, I am still unsure as to what would be one :) Maybe it is a collection of bots, databases and cron jobs stuck to a jughead server. What Floodgap has is certainly one and perhaps one day they will let me have some fun reading their source codes and seeing how they put theirs together (yes i have asked). Back to the hal3000 search...where do i stop, how much data collected, how often to update? At which point will mine be valuable and when will it be a shallow imitation of floodgaps V2? Floodgaps V2 is awesome, really it is. So its redundant to emulate it but...it could be done , even manually. Mine is nice too, limiting the search to more recently updated gophers trims down results. Adding archive type or historic gophers was a choice I am not sure was the best however I picked them after browsing them and seeing much information in them. Feedback from users would be nice, otherwise I am just playing around and learning, which of course is fine too:) Anyone interested in sending their ideas feel free to email: chris@hal3000.cx Thanks!