I have removed beaker.mdns.org and ahuber.net from my list of current gopher server links and removed them from my jughead search. Lets hope they return to gopher-land! For the time being I updated the jughead multi-site, only using my site due to some odd extended time periods for the update through quux, I don't have the time to check on why this happens exactly so for the time being I am only running the jughead to hal3000. I have added ruckus to the audio visual files it contains text and images regarding the wifes and my Honda Ruckus(es?) or Ruxen ;) I recently had to make a choice about serving a web site that used a format I disgreed with... funny but what I stand for and believe in as a person still learning , unix and its flavors, open source, serving in a "least common denominator style" non proprietary format etc, was tested, I wish I could have communicated my problems with what he was doing better.