I have been looking into the mozilla bug #285003 submited by Alessandro Selli, (Thanks Alessandro) which was labeled as a duplicate of bug #158888 as well as related to #194220. What I had brought up on the mailing list is that when using mozilla(6) which, includes galeon, epiphany, firefox and netscape(7), pointing the browser to an address with a port other than 70 resulted in the browser displaying actually what was at port 70 and still having the non-70 port displayed in the address bar. ie: gopher://hal3000.cx:7070 displays in the browser the actual gopherspace of gopher://hal3000.cx:70 even though the address bar maintains the 7070 port. This is wrong, the two sites are quite different and will be more so and further, one might believe one was really at 7070. By the way non-70 port gopher servers are NOT violating the standards of gopher servers. Thats why I don't like saying non-standard ports when refering to ports other than 70. Anyhow I have now decided to change Hal3000.cx on The Hurd a bit, this should be transparent in gopher and allow it to be reached via pygopherd's very nice html interface. Please let me know if there are any problems reaching or downloading from gopher://hal3000.cx:7070 or http://hal3000.cx:7070. As always I appreciate the help and advice I recieve so thanks in advance! One thing I find funny now that I have made a link to "hal3000.cx on The Hurd" is that another graphical browser I sometimes use is opera, which when using a proxy will gopher but has port 70 "disabled for security reasons" in http requests, since Hal3000.cx on The Hurd is served via pygopherds web interface on port 7070 I can now see it there...geesh its a mess . I vote for lynx to view across protocols I guess :) I have to say without pygopherd it would be even worse, at least now there is a bridge between gopher and the web, a way to access information here from there. I enjoy seeing google results that are actually from pygopherd servers...our content is seen in both www and gopher this way, between say google seeing htmlized results from gopher and V2 or jughead seeing the gopher reults. Well thats all for now, happy gophering! Chris