Well I just listened to a nice radio interview of RMS on Radio Active San Diego. The hosts were a bit weak, and beavis and butthead-ish, but Mr Stallman did a wonderfull job of carrying them. Long live the FSF! On that note , I anxiously await my HURD CD's and plan on setting up some part of my gopher on a GNU/HURD box, perhaps even a free shell. I do love FreeBSD but The HURD has me excited, I wont replace my FBSD boxes but plan on eventually running both OS'es. I'll bet jughead will run nice on HURD, hmm a nice program to test the environment on. Anyhow have a good one and I will share my favorite and most simple definition of hack or hacker. To manage successfully. (or one who does!)