Subj : Socialist "Democrats"
To   : MIKE POWELL
From : Rob Mccart
Date : Mon Dec 01 2025 08:17:35

RM>> Really.. Often once they get out there and start making money, and trying
  >> to make enough to have a good life, they realize that the less socialist
  >> systems give a lot more room for advancement. The idea of treating
  >> everyone the same no matter how bad they are also treats those who are
  >> exceptional worse than they deserve due to Union Contracts and such.

MP>Very much really.  Although at least some of them did seem to be fairly, if
  >not exceptionally, intelligent, I am under the impression that most all of
  >them underachieved (and some by a great deal).

Yes, that's often the case. As I've said, when you get paid the same
whether you work hard or not, you can only beat the system by working
as little as you can get away with.

RM>> In a True communist setup, people are evaluated at a very young age
  >> and trained to do a job they are naturally going to be talented at.

MP>I honestly think that this part is not necessarily a bad idea.  *IF* used
  >properly, it could prevent a lot of people from getting useless degrees in
  >things that they have no talent at and/or will never be in much demand.

Yes, there are a lot of University graduates who don't have any
knowledge that will help them get or keep a job..

RM>> Someone has to be in charge of things and they always set
  >> themselves up (and their friends and families) as an upper class, and
  >> it always seems to be a very greedy class and you end up with 75%
  >> of the money going to 2% of the people..

MP>Yes, the USSR had a name for that upper class but the name escapes me at
  >the moment.

Nomenklatura?  By root it's the same as Nomenclature, but in their
case it defined an elite 'ruling class' who worked at or appointed
all people who got the high ranking jobs.

MP>Technically, Russia is no longer communist.  That said, I strongly believe
  >that many of the broken things going on over there are because the people
  >in charge were part of that USSR upper class discussed above & they've not
  >really changed enough how they do things.

Yes, that's true although I think the people Living there are still
treated the same as when it was fully Communist. These days, calling
it a democracy is a joke.. It's more a dictatorship under Putin
supporting the uber wealthy who help keep him in power.

RM>> Over the years I benefitted more from employers
  >> breaking the union contract for me than any good the union ever did
  >> for me. But I saw how the union was really great for some who were
  >> lazy, incompetent, or absent a lot and such.

MP>IMHO, Unions could still have a place if they stayed out of politics, and
  >also stopped protecting those who are really lazy, incompentent, etc... i.e.
  >those that "real" Communism would likely not protect.

The problem always exists, what do you do with those people? If they
are not working then there's not much they can do other than turn to
crime or die in the streets.. If Welfare is easy to get, you get too
many people taking it while they do things under the table to make
more money (like selling drugs)..

There's never any easy answers..

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