Subj : Re: x11 vs wayland
To   : All
From : mm0fmf
Date : Thu Oct 23 2025 17:29:18

On 23/10/2025 13:16, Theo wrote:
> mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
>> I run X apps across the home network all the time. I have a small 1L
>> computer that acts as a NAS and runs headless. Mostly I just ssh into it
>> but there are times when it's easier to run X across the net.
>>
>> At work I use RDP onto a Windows server over the VPN to access data
>> centre developmemt machines in Netherlands from my home. I use X for
>> accessing the Linux machines onto the Windows server and RDP to get it
>> to my laptop. X across the data centre 1/2.5/10Gb network is plenty fast
>> and RDP compresses the data nicely to me. Fast enough to watch video
>> generated on a Linux box, X its way to Windows and RDP its way to me.
>>
>> ssh -C -X someone@somehost to enable compression and X11 forwarding.
> 
> A while back I was playing running remote Wayland apps over ~50Mbps VDSL
> using Waypipe.  It works impressively fast - eg remote Youtube video playing
> works well enough.  You can also tunnel audio.  Due to latency it works a
> lot better than X forwarding over the same connection.  However it doesn't
> let you have persistent apps, ie you close down the client (eg a laptop) and
> want the app to stay running to reconnect later.
> 
> wprs supports that, but there was a bug with screen scaling (for X11 apps
> using Xwayland) that made it awkward to use.  I should go back and see if
> they've fixed that.
> 
> Theo
Current main home machine runs Debian 13 + Mate with X not Wayland. I 
must try more options including Waypipe. One day there won't be any X so 
it would be nice to know how to move from there. Nice to know now not 
when an update removes X ;-)

Oh sorry it's not Windows.  Did my last Win10 upgrades on the old 
machine this Debian box has replaced and also on a W10 VM I have on here 
for 2 mapping programs that are Windows only. Oh how I was delighted to 
see a list of updates and also OneDrive installed on to the W10 
instances without asking or appearing in the list of things to be 
installed. Fucking Windows, die, die, die!



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