Subj : Re: ChatGPT Writing
To   : Nightfox
From : jimmylogan
Date : Wed Dec 03 2025 09:02:12

-=> Nightfox wrote to jimmylogan <=-

 Ni>   Re: Re: ChatGPT Writing
 Ni>   By: jimmylogan to Nightfox on Wed Dec 03 2025 07:57 am

 ji> This is the first time I've seen the objective definition. I was told,
 ji> paraphrasing here, 'AI will hallucinate - if it doesn't know the answer it
 ji> will make something up and profess that it is true.'

 ji> If you ask me a question and I give you an incorrect answer, but I believe
 ji> that it is true, am I hallucinating? Or am I mistaken? Or is my
 ji> information outdated?

 ji> You see what I mean? Lots of words, but hard to nail it down. :-)

 Ni> It sounds like you might be thinking too hard about it.  For AI, the
 Ni> definition of "hallucinating" is simply what you said, making something
 Ni> up and professing that it's true.  That's the definition of
 Ni> hallucinating that we have for our current AI systems; it's not about
 Ni> us. :)

But again, is it 'making something up' if it is just mistaken?

For example - I just asked about a particular code for homebrew on an 
older machine. I said 'gen2' and that means the 2nd generation of MacBook Air
power adapter. It's just a slang that *I* use, but I've used it with ChatGPT
many times. BUT - the last code I was talking about was for an M2.

So it gave me an 'M2' answer and not Intel, so I had to modify my request.
It then gave me the specifics that I was looking for.

So that's hallucinating?

And please don't misunderstand... I'm not beating a dead horse here - at 
least not on purpose. I guess I don't see a 'problem' inherent with incorrect
data, since it's just a tool and not a be all - end all thing.



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