Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To   : Jcurtis
From : jimmylogan
Date : Tue May 27 2025 08:29:29

-=> Jcurtis wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

 >  Jc> The Bible says otherwise. Colossians 1:15. And the other 2 verses
 >  Jc> already noted. If you care to read them.

 > Did, and this one too. Next verse says all things were created
 > by Him. But Gen 1:1 says this was God.

 Jc> All things except himself.

 Jc> "Firstborn" means created. By the Father. Son and Father are not the
 Jc> same. When Jesus said they are "one" He didn't mean the same.

 Jc> Father = eternal
 Jc> Son = created

 Jc> The words father and son are easy to understand. But people like their
 Jc> church dogma.

John 3:16 says "only begotten." Strong's Concordance lists it as 
monogenˇ“s (G3439), meaning "only born" or "sole." I take that to 
mean unique, one of a kind, not replicated. But not created in 
the way we think of creation.

Here's how I understand it: God is eternal. He exists outside time, 
space, and matter. So when He chose to "inject" Himself into His 
own creation, He did so through a physical expression - Jesus (Yeshua). 
This wasn't the "start" of the Son, but the manifestation of God 
in physical form.

I believe the terms "Father" and "Son" are descriptors for our 
benefit - to help us grasp a truth that is beyond our experience. 
It doesn't mean one came before the other. It's not "created" the 
way created things are. It is God, revealing Himself to us.

That's my belief and understanding from my reading and
studying. It does not come from church dogma.

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